* [oss-gost-crypto] Fwd: Re: Should we consider removing Streebog from the Linux Kernel?
@ 2019-04-01 11:32 Vitaly Chikunov
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From: Vitaly Chikunov @ 2019-04-01 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: oss-gost-crypto
Очередной наброс.
----- Forwarded message from Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch> -----
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:51:11 +0000
From: Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch>
To: Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"herbert@gondor.apana.org.au" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>, "linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Should we consider removing Streebog from the Linux Kernel?
On Monday, April 1, 2019 10:04 AM, Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> > Can you elaborate on why you want to use Streebog? When we added Speck, we
> > explained in great detail why it was useful from a technical perspective (before
> > Adiantum was ready). I don't see any such explanation for Streebog.
>
> Our users demand that file integrity is implemented using their national
> standard algorithm.
>
> Thanks,
Does it mean that every state can demand from Linux kernel to carrying crypto
algorithms of their choice?
Jordan
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* Re: [oss-gost-crypto] Fwd: Re: Should we consider removing Streebog from the Linux Kernel?
@ 2019-04-02 12:17 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2019-04-02 14:06 ` Wartan Hachaturow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Vitaly Chikunov @ 2019-04-02 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open-source aspects of GOST Cryptography
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 02:58:39PM +0300, Wartan Hachaturow wrote:
> Совершенно непонятно в таком случае, почему открытый алгоритм от NIST
> быть должен, а открытый алгоритм от другого standard body - не должен.
> Или все, или никаких и один cha-cha c blowfish.
Да много аргументов можно придумать. Но если ответ получается длиннее
вопроса, то это явно был троллинг. В том обсуждении не понятно что надо,
а что не надо доказывать и кому.
На мой взгляд, наличие пользовательской базы достаточное основание для
включения поддержки.
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 14:32 Vitaly Chikunov <[1]vt@altlinux.org> wrote:
>
> Очередной наброс.
> ----- Forwarded message from Jordan Glover
> <[2]Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch> -----
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:51:11 +0000
> From: Jordan Glover <[3]Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch>
> To: Vitaly Chikunov <[4]vt@altlinux.org>
> Cc: Eric Biggers <[5]ebiggers@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o
> <[6]tytso@mit.edu>, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <[7]Jason@zx2c4.com>,
> "[8]herbert@gondor.apana.org.au"
> <[9]herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>, "[10]linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org"
> <[11]linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: Should we consider removing Streebog from the Linux
> Kernel?
> On Monday, April 1, 2019 10:04 AM, Vitaly Chikunov
> <[12]vt@altlinux.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate on why you want to use Streebog? When we added
> Speck, we
> > > explained in great detail why it was useful from a technical
> perspective (before
> > > Adiantum was ready). I don't see any such explanation for
> Streebog.
> >
> > Our users demand that file integrity is implemented using their
> national
> > standard algorithm.
> >
> > Thanks,
> Does it mean that every state can demand from Linux kernel to
> carrying crypto
> algorithms of their choice?
> Jordan
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:vt@altlinux.org
> 2. mailto:Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch
> 3. mailto:Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch
> 4. mailto:vt@altlinux.org
> 5. mailto:ebiggers@kernel.org
> 6. mailto:tytso@mit.edu
> 7. mailto:Jason@zx2c4.com
> 8. mailto:herbert@gondor.apana.org.au
> 9. mailto:herbert@gondor.apana.org.au
> 10. mailto:linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
> 11. mailto:linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
> 12. mailto:vt@altlinux.org
> 13. mailto:oss-gost-crypto@lists.altlinux.org
> 14. https://lists.altlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/oss-gost-crypto
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* Re: [oss-gost-crypto] Fwd: Re: Should we consider removing Streebog from the Linux Kernel?
2019-04-02 12:17 ` Vitaly Chikunov
@ 2019-04-02 14:06 ` Wartan Hachaturow
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From: Wartan Hachaturow @ 2019-04-02 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open-source aspects of GOST Cryptography
On 2019-04-02T15:17:38+0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote:
> Да много аргументов можно придумать. Но если ответ получается длиннее
> вопроса, то это явно был троллинг. В том обсуждении не понятно что надо,
> а что не надо доказывать и кому.
> На мой взгляд, наличие пользовательской базы достаточное основание для
> включения поддержки.
Согласен.
--
Regards, Wartan.
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