Re: [kbd] kbd package

Re: [kbd] kbd package

[Alexey Gladkov]

Roman Kyrylych wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm a developer of Arch Linux (known as Romashka)
> and I have question/requests. :-)
> 
> 1) one Czech user claims that cz.map.gz should be moved to qwertz directory
> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9619
> (but I'm not sure that's a valid claim).

2kbd.list: Can anyone help me to confirm this bug ?

> 2) I see you've added many new Russian keymaps
> http://git.altlinux.org/people/legion/packages/kbd.git?p=kbd.git;a=commit;h=60625eeaaae6676e1e949b34966dff519fc428db

This keymaps is not all russian keymaps :)

Take a look:

http://git.altlinux.org/people/legion/packages/kbd.git?p=kbd.git;a=tree;f=rpm/kbd-data-extra/keymaps/i386/qwerty;h=e318c750507ec82df67677a88a2d23061e612361;hb=e53aaf9e9aa557e5fc4f599de3527299b5276529

> Do UTF-8 versions replace non-UTF-8 ru-ms and ru4?

I think they may replace ru-ms and ru4. I don't know people who use
ru-ms and ru4. In fact, ruwin_* keymaps is most popular keymaps for
russians.
I know people who use ru*-Corwin kemaps as well.

> 3) You've added Terminus font, but only one of many vatiants
> http://git.altlinux.org/people/legion/packages/kbd.git?p=kbd.git;a=commit;h=52b7671b2785a81349b9b4d21219684922f49852
> I suggest either revert that change or, better, add all Terminus
> fonts, but from official source:
> http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html
> (just please don't apply any patches available on that page),
> They really look creat and support many languages,

I add Terminus font after feature request.

> Thank you for your great work on improving kbd!

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Rgrds, legion

Re: [kbd] kbd package

[Ken Moffat]

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:45:16AM +0300, Alexey Gladkov wrote:
> Roman Kyrylych wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm a developer of Arch Linux (known as Romashka)
> > and I have question/requests. :-)
> > 
> > 1) one Czech user claims that cz.map.gz should be moved to qwertz directory
> > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9619
> > (but I'm not sure that's a valid claim).
> 
> 2kbd.list: Can anyone help me to confirm this bug ?
> 
 I assume the correct location for the map is supposed to be
determined by the key 'family' (azerty,qwerty,qwertz...) - in this
case (looking at the old 1.14.1wip) -
ken@bluesbreaker ~ $grep 'keycode *21 ' 
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwert?/cz*
 tells us (chopped at right to avoid excessively long lines)
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cz-cp1250.map:keycode 21 = y
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cz-lat2.map:keycode 21 = y
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cz-lat2-prog.map:keycode 21 = y
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cz.map:keycode  21 = +z	Z 
kbd-1.14.1wip/data/keymaps/i386/qwertz/cz-us-qwertz.map:keycode 21 = z Z y Y

 From this, I assume that the Czech republic has people using qwertz
and qwerty keyboards.  Alternatively, perhaps somebody with an
American keyboard needed to type czech on it and contributed a
layout.  The choice of which map to use (and whether qwerty or qwertz)
is probably best left to the distro (and then modified by the
individual user to suit his or her needs), but logic suggests cz.map
belongs in the qwertz directory.

 Now, can _I_ ask something, please ?  What is your policy for
accepting keymaps ?  I can remember several years ago I had to
modify a map to get something suitable for my "british" ibook (G3),
and there was a stony silence when I tried to feed it back.  FWIW,
it no longer worked when I had to get a G4 ibook, so it's not a
long-term loss, I'm just curious.

ĸen
-- 
das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce

Re: [kbd] kbd package

[Alexey Gladkov]

Ken Moffat wrote:
>  Now, can _I_ ask something, please ?  What is your policy for
> accepting keymaps ?  I can remember several years ago I had to
> modify a map to get something suitable for my "british" ibook (G3),
> and there was a stony silence when I tried to feed it back.  FWIW,
> it no longer worked when I had to get a G4 ibook, so it's not a
> long-term loss, I'm just curious.

I try to review all incoming keymap and fixes. Several years this
project was unmaintained. Many linux distributions has unnamed fork of
kbd package. I really want to correct this situation.

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Rgrds, legion