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From: Denis Medvedev <nbr@altlinux.org>
To: devel@lists.altlinux.org
Subject: Re: [devel] I: systemd-248.3-alt2 и конфликт со startup
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:27:14 +0300
Message-ID: <20210708132714.4334bed9@homerun.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4637614.GXAFRqVoOG@zerg.malta.altlinux.ru>

On Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:17:30 +0300
Sergey V Turchin <zerg@altlinux.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:11:07 MSK Vladimir D wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > sd решает совсем другие задачи, а
> > именно платформы для построения операционных систем, непонятно
> > правда зачем мы идём этим путём.  
> Слишком хороший вопрос содержит ответ целиком. ;-)
Интересно, но похоже идеологии такие:
sysvinit:
- много мелких утилит сделанных по одному интерфейсу (потоки + shmem +
  files+signals) дают гибкость.

systemd
- "двое из ларца, одинаковых с лица" создают вам комфорт,
  параметры которого вы можете запрашивать через dbus или через *ctl
  утилиты. 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-08 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-07 16:08 Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-07 20:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-07 21:03   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-07 21:25     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08  4:49       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 13:35         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08 13:39           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 13:58           ` Ivan A. Melnikov
2021-07-08 13:43     ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:05         ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:08           ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2021-07-08 14:16             ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:22               ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2021-07-08 14:44                 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2021-07-08 14:02     ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 15:13       ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2021-07-08 15:16         ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 15:56         ` Denis Medvedev
2021-07-08 16:57           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  4:53   ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  5:53     ` Denis Medvedev
2021-07-08  6:31       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  6:37         ` Denis Medvedev
2021-07-08  6:38           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  6:41             ` Denis Medvedev
2021-07-08  6:50               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  7:11     ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08  7:28       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  8:29         ` Arseny Maslennikov
2021-07-08  8:31           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08  8:46           ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-07 21:44 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08  9:15   ` Sergey Bolshakov
2021-07-08 10:10     ` Sergey Afonin
2021-07-08 10:42       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 12:13         ` Sergey Afonin
2021-07-08 12:18           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 12:52             ` Denis Medvedev
2021-07-08 12:53             ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 12:56               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 13:11                 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 13:17                   ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 13:17                   ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-08 13:27                     ` Denis Medvedev [this message]
2021-07-08 13:40                       ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-08 13:30                     ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 13:41                       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 14:11                         ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 14:12                           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 14:18                             ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 14:23                               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 14:27                                 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-09 14:41                                   ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-09 15:59                                     ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-10 20:39                                       ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-10  3:39                                     ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 14:53                                 ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:56                                   ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-09 14:35                         ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-09 14:48                           ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-09 15:17                             ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-12  8:48                               ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-12  8:59                                 ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-12  9:07                                   ` Sergey V Turchin
2021-07-09 16:18                           ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2021-07-10  3:49                           ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 12:54             ` Sergey Afonin
2021-07-08 13:02               ` Sergey Afonin
2021-07-08 13:03               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 13:37             ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 13:52               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 15:46                 ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 15:54                   ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 16:49                     ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 16:56                       ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 17:08                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08 17:16                         ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 17:58                           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 18:23                             ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 20:30                             ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-12 21:09                         ` Leonid Krivoshein
2021-07-08 20:59                     ` Konstantin Lepikhov
2021-07-08 10:28     ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-08 10:38       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2021-07-08 10:56         ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-08 13:58   ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:05     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08 14:07       ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 14:10         ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2021-07-08 14:11           ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 15:20             ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-08 15:23               ` Anton Farygin
2021-07-08 15:13         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-08 21:39   ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-08 21:51     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2021-07-08 21:52     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2021-07-09  8:02       ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-09 14:00         ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-09 14:14           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-09 14:24             ` Антон Мидюков
2021-07-09 14:38               ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-09 16:26                 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-09 16:23             ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-09 17:07               ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-09 18:34                 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-09 18:55                   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-11  7:32                     ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-11  9:09                       ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-11 12:30                         ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-11 13:30                           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-11 21:51                             ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-10 21:09         ` Alexey Shabalin
2021-07-11  9:28           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-07-09 14:21 ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2021-07-09 16:30   ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2021-07-10 20:50     ` Mikhail Novosyolov

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