From: Sergey V Turchin <zerg@altlinux.org> To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [devel] I: systemd-248.3-alt2 и конфликт со startup Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:40:56 +0300 Message-ID: <12807041.uLZWGnKmhe@zerg.malta.altlinux.ru> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20210708132714.4334bed9@homerun.localdomain> On Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:27:14 MSK Denis Medvedev wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:17:30 +0300 > > Sergey V Turchin <zerg@altlinux.org> wrote: > > On Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:11:07 MSK Vladimir D wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > sd решает совсем другие задачи, а > > > именно платформы для построения операционных систем, непонятно > > > правда зачем мы идём этим путём. > > > > Слишком хороший вопрос содержит ответ целиком. ;-) > > Интересно, но похоже идеологии такие: > sysvinit: > - много мелких утилит сделанных по одному интерфейсу (потоки + shmem + > files+signals) дают гибкость. Примерно, как мешок щебёнки по сравнению с одной длинной цепью. "Не складно. Вот, сиди и складывай." > systemd > - "двое из ларца, одинаковых с лица" создают вам комфорт, > параметры которого вы можете запрашивать через dbus или через *ctl > утилиты. Понятно, что откормлен прилично, но функциональное превосходство _принципиальное_. И оно не сравнимо с различными костылями к sysvinit. -- Regards, Sergey.
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