[sisyphus] abiword print & view

[sisyphus] abiword print & view

[Vyt]

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Hello, All

Тот же самый abiword из Sisyphus
abisuite-koi8-0.7.14-alt1
abisuite-cp1251-0.7.14-alt1
abisuite-0.7.14-alt1

показывает текст при печати не так, как при предпросмотре печати
или уже на бумаге. Это проявилось на приложенном файле. Текст
частично вставлен из Mozilla.
mozilla-0.9-alt4
mozilla-devel-0.9-alt4

-- 
Regards, Vyt
mailto:vyt@vzljot.ru

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Re: [sisyphus] abiword print & view

[Aleksey Novodvorsky]

Vyt wrote:

> Hello, All
>
> Тот же самый abiword из Sisyphus
> abisuite-koi8-0.7.14-alt1
> abisuite-cp1251-0.7.14-alt1
> abisuite-0.7.14-alt1
>
> показывает текст при печати не так, как при предпросмотре печати
> или уже на бумаге. Это проявилось на приложенном файле. Текст
> частично вставлен из Mozilla.
> mozilla-0.9-alt4
> mozilla-devel-0.9-alt4

Какую печать Вы использовали? Direct print или print? Попробуйте распечатать
в файл и посмотреть gv. Совпдает ли с preview?

Rgrds, AEN


>
>
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>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>               Name: abi.rtf
>    abi.rtf    Type: Rich Text Format (application/rtf)
>           Encoding: base64

Re: [sisyphus] abiword print & view

[Vyt]

On Sat, 26 May 2001 21:01:45 +0400
Aleksey Novodvorsky <aen@logic.ru> wrote:

> > показывает текст при печати не так, как при предпросмотре
> > печати
> > или уже на бумаге. Это проявилось на приложенном файле. Текст
> > частично вставлен из Mozilla.
> > mozilla-0.9-alt4
> > mozilla-devel-0.9-alt4
> 
> Какую печать Вы использовали? Direct print или print?

Ту, на которой принтер нарисован на панели инстрементов, рядом с
print-preview.
При печати print directly из меню "Файл" печатается сплошной
черный лист.
Опять я ступил, в параметрах страницы был выбран формат letter,
теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает то же,
что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
отображается при наборе текста.
И по-прежнему пропадает при печати (как и в preview) конец
текста.

> Попробуйте распечатать в файл и посмотреть gv. Совпдает ли с
> preview?

Совпадает.
Вам удалось воспроизвести это с приложенным в предыдущем письме
файлом?

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Re: [sisyphus] abiword print & view

[Aleksey Novodvorsky]

On Mon, 28 May 2001 11:32:23 +0400
Vyt <vyt@vzljot.ru> wrote:


> 
> Ту, на которой принтер нарисован на панели инстрементов, рядом
> с
> print-preview.
> При печати print directly из меню "Файл" печатается сплошной
> черный лист.

Это в случае, если стоит черно-белая печать? Если да, то это
известно.

> Опять я ступил, в параметрах страницы был выбран формат letter,
> теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает то
> же,
> что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
> отображается при наборе текста.

Это нормально. 

> И по-прежнему пропадает при печати (как и в preview) конец
> текста.
> 
> > Попробуйте распечатать в файл и посмотреть gv. Совпдает ли с
> > preview?
> 
> Совпадает.
> Вам удалось воспроизвести это с приложенным в предыдущем письме
> файлом?

Да.


Rgrds, AEN

[sisyphus] [JT] abiword print & view

[Vyt]

On Mon, 28 May 2001 14:49:21 +0400
Aleksey Novodvorsky <aen@altlinux.ru> wrote:

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> > Опять я ступил, в параметрах страницы был выбран формат letter,
> > теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает то
> > же,
> > что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
> > отображается при наборе текста.
> 
> Это нормально.

?? А по-моему, неудобно.

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Re: [sisyphus] [JT] abiword print & view

[Aleksey Novodvorsky]

On Mon, 28 May 2001 14:51:44 +0400
Vyt <vyt@vzljot.ru> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 May 2001 14:49:21 +0400
> Aleksey Novodvorsky <aen@altlinux.ru> wrote:
> 
> <skipped>
> 
> > > Опять я ступил, в параметрах страницы был выбран формат
> letter,
> > > теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает
> то
> > > же,
> > > что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
> > > отображается при наборе текста.
> > 
> > Это нормально.
> 
> ?? А по-моему, неудобно.

Неудобно, но полный WYSIWYG не обеспечивает ни один текстовый
процессор. Странно было бы требовать этого от Abi.
Кстати, приятная новость от команды OpenOffice: обещают новую
систему печати (основанную на генерации ps) в следующем snapshot.
В CVS, правда, пока не нашел.
Rgrds, AEN

Re: [sisyphus] [JT] abiword print & view

[Vyt]

On Mon, 28 May 2001 15:18:18 +0400
Aleksey Novodvorsky <aen@altlinux.ru> wrote:

> > > > теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает
> > то
> > > > же,
> > > > что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
> > > > отображается при наборе текста.
> > >
> > > Это нормально.
> >
> > ?? А по-моему, неудобно.
> 
> Неудобно, но полный WYSIWYG не обеспечивает ни один текстовый

Зачем полный, пусть хотя бы количество страниц при наборе и при
печати совпадает. Кстати, текст, тот, что при наборе есть, при
печати ОТСУТСТВУЕТ СОВСЕМ!! По-моему, это уже не капризы к
интерфейсу.

> процессор. Странно было бы требовать этого от Abi.
> Кстати, приятная новость от команды OpenOffice: обещают новую
> систему печати (основанную на генерации ps) в следующем
> snapshot.

А вставка из буфера там будет работать? Кстати, есть какой-нибудь
формат, описывающий содержимое буфера? С учетом разнородности
данных, кодировок, а может, и локалей?

> В CVS, правда, пока не нашел.

А с учетом предыдущих обещаний openoffice...

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Re: [sisyphus] [JT] abiword print & view

[Vlad Harchev]

On Mon, 28 May 2001, Vyt wrote:

> On Mon, 28 May 2001 15:18:18 +0400
> Aleksey Novodvorsky <aen@altlinux.ru> wrote:
> 
> > > > > теперь поставил правильный, A4. Теперь preview показывает
> > > то
> > > > > же,
> > > > > что получается при печати, но не совпадает с тем, как
> > > > > отображается при наборе текста.
> > > >
> > > > Это нормально.
> > >
> > > ?? А по-моему, неудобно.
> > 
> > Неудобно, но полный WYSIWYG не обеспечивает ни один текстовый

 IMHO не верно - MS Ворд обеспечивает (за исключением ошибок в драйверах
принтера и системе печати виндов). И AW тоже обеспечивал если бы в нем не
было ошибок. Просто так они написаны - они не могут быть не-WYSIWYG.

> Зачем полный, пусть хотя бы количество страниц при наборе и при
> печати совпадает. Кстати, текст, тот, что при наборе есть, при
> печати ОТСУТСТВУЕТ СОВСЕМ!! По-моему, это уже не капризы к
> интерфейсу.

 Попробуйте распечатать этот файл через direct print в не-Black&White режиме -
у меня распечатанный через Direct Print текст идентичен тому, что показывает
AW в окне редактирования.

 Best regards,
  -Vlad

Re: [sisyphus] [JT] abiword print & view

[Vyt]

On Mon, 28 May 2001 19:38:11 +0500 (SAMST)
Vlad Harchev <hvv@hippo.ru> wrote:

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> > Зачем полный, пусть хотя бы количество страниц при наборе и
> > при
> > печати совпадает. Кстати, текст, тот, что при наборе есть,
> > при
> > печати ОТСУТСТВУЕТ СОВСЕМ!! По-моему, это уже не капризы к
> > интерфейсу.
> 
>  Попробуйте распечатать этот файл через direct print в
> не-Black&White режиме -
> у меня распечатанный через Direct Print текст идентичен тому,
> что показывает
> AW в окне редактирования.

Спасибо, не в черно-белом режиме - великолепно. Однако, надо было
самому попробовать. Послал это в FAQ :)

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