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From: Kirill Maslinsky <kirill@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] /etc/udev/rules.d
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:15:12 +0300
Message-ID: <20090110091512.GB7359@odnako> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109234741.GA17653@wo.int.altlinux.org>

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On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 02:47:41AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 01:23:10AM +0200, Led wrote:
> > On Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:59:58 Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> > > Twas brillig at 00:58:17 10.01.2009 UTC+02 when ledest@gmail.com did gyre 
> > and gimble:
> > >  >> А в чём принципиальная сложность установить?
> > >
> > >  L> Странно слышать этот вопрос от разработчика ALT-RPM:)
> > >
> > >  L> Это как раз я спрашивал: ЗАЧЕМ такое принципиальное ограничение на
> > >  L> установку алтернативных пакетов (с другим именем, с версией в
> > >  L> имени)? аргументов, кроме как "Для вашего же блага!" я не услышал.
> > >
> > > Предлагаю перейти к конструктиву: что конкретно ломается при установке
> > > другого udev_xyz и как это выглядит? Вдруг, мнэ, здесь просто
> > > недопонимание или незадокументирование?
> > 
> > http://lists.altlinux.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/157577.html
> > 
> > P.S.
> > "Proivdes: udev-rules" - не рашает, несмотря на утверждение at@
> 
> По-настоящему будет плохо, если apt-get install /etc/udev/rules.d
> не установит пакет udev-rules.
> 
> Между прочим, есть ли уверенность в том, что /etc/udev/rules.d/* из
> пакетов будут нормально сосуществовать с достаточно старым udev'ом?

Вероятно, (не)совместимость тех или иных конструкций в правилах udev
с той или иной версией udev специфицирована, тогда проверка на совместимость
может быть формализована, а простановка нужной версии реализована 
в скриптах автоматической генерации зависимостей (files.req).

Проще говоря, если в пакете присутствует файл /etc/udev/rules.d/*, то при сборке
достаточно проанализировать его на предмет наличия неких "диагностических"
конструкций, чтобы вычислить правильный диапазон версий udev,
подходящих данному пакету. 

-- 
Kirill Maslinsky
ALT Linux Team

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2009-01-08 19:50 [devel] Бага (формально) может и нет, а вот проблема есть! Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-01-08 20:02 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-08 20:59   ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-08 20:08 ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-08 21:25   ` Sergey N. Yatskevich
2009-01-08 23:05     ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-08 23:16       ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-09  5:38       ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-08 21:29 ` Pavlov Konstantin
2009-01-08 21:37   ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-09  4:51     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-09  4:50   ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-09  8:35 ` [devel] Бага ( формально ) может и нет , " Alexey Morozov
2009-01-09  9:11   ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-01-09  9:18     ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-01-09 11:32     ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-01-09 13:34       ` Led
2009-01-09 19:56         ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 20:07           ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
2009-01-09 20:17             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2009-01-09 20:33               ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 20:45                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2009-01-09 21:23                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 20:50                 ` Led
2009-01-09 21:04                   ` [devel] udev Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-09 21:40                     ` Led
2009-01-09 21:55                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-09 22:58                         ` Led
2009-01-09 22:59                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-09 23:23                             ` Led
2009-01-09 23:32                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-09 23:38                                 ` Led
2009-01-09 23:39                                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-09 23:49                                     ` Led
2009-01-09 23:58                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:23                                         ` Led
2009-01-10  0:27                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:34                                             ` Led
2009-01-10  0:37                                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:52                                                 ` Led
2009-01-10  0:56                                                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  1:00                                                     ` Led
2009-01-10  1:01                                                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  1:02                                                     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  1:09                                                     ` Led
2009-01-10  1:15                                                       ` Led
2009-01-10 14:12                                                         ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 14:31                                                           ` [devel] /etc/udev/rules.d Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 14:39                                                             ` Led
2009-01-10 15:23                                                               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 15:50                                                               ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 15:59                                                                 ` Led
2009-01-10 16:00                                                                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 16:04                                                                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 16:14                                                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 16:18                                                                         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-10 16:32                                                                       ` Led
2009-01-10 16:38                                                                         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 17:42                                                                           ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-10 17:49                                                                             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 17:57                                                                               ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-10 17:59                                                                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 18:11                                                                                   ` Led
2009-01-10 18:19                                                                                     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-10 18:26                                                                                       ` Led
2009-01-10 18:33                                                                                         ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-11 23:46                                                                                           ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-14 21:18                                                                                             ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-15 16:07                                                                                               ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10 19:03                                                                                         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-10 18:22                                                                                     ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 18:09                                                                               ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 18:12                                                                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 18:15                                                                                   ` Led
2009-01-10 18:18                                                                                   ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 17:18                                                                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 17:48                                                                           ` Led
2009-01-10 17:49                                                                             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 17:54                                                                               ` Led
2009-01-10 17:56                                                                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 18:01                                                                                   ` Led
2009-01-10 18:01                                                                                     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 17:52                                                                             ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10 18:00                                                                               ` Led
2009-01-10 18:17                                                                                 ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10 18:13                                                                             ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-10 18:19                                                                               ` Led
2009-01-11  5:38                                                                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10 18:27                                                                             ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 14:36                                                           ` [devel] udev Led
2009-01-10  0:29                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:38                                             ` Led
2009-01-09 23:47                               ` [devel] /etc/udev/rules.d Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-09 23:50                                 ` Led
2009-01-10  0:34                                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  0:44                                     ` Led
2009-01-10  0:50                                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  0:54                                         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:57                                         ` Led
2009-01-10  1:08                                           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  1:12                                             ` Led
2009-01-10  1:14                                               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  1:20                                                 ` Led
2009-01-09 23:52                                 ` Led
2009-01-10  0:02                                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10  0:36                                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10  0:05                                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:15                                     ` Led
2009-01-10  0:15                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 15:32                                   ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-10  9:15                                 ` Kirill Maslinsky [this message]
2009-01-10 12:47                                   ` Dmitriy Khanzhin
2009-01-10 13:34                                     ` Kirill Maslinsky
2009-01-09 23:13                           ` [devel] udev Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-09 23:25                             ` Led
2009-01-10 15:40                             ` [devel] buildreq (was: udev) Michael Shigorin
2009-01-09 20:34               ` [devel] Бага ( формально ) может и нет , а вот проблема есть! Valery V. Inozemtsev
2009-01-09 20:46                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2009-01-09 20:46                   ` [devel] kernel requirement in userspace Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-09 20:48                     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-09 21:27                       ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 20:51                 ` [devel] Бага ( формально ) может и нет , а вот проблема есть! Led
2009-01-09 21:28                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 21:45                     ` Led
2009-01-09 23:25                       ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-09 23:34                         ` Led
2009-01-10  0:04                           ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10  0:20                             ` Led
2009-01-10  0:23                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:28                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10  0:29                                 ` Led
2009-01-10  0:34                               ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10  1:35                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10  1:41                               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-10 11:18                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10 17:55                                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-11  5:30                                     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-11  6:34                                       ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-11 23:50                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-11 23:59                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-12  0:07                                             ` Led
2009-01-12 15:43                                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-14 21:24                                                 ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-14 21:29                                                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-14 22:04                                                     ` Led
2009-01-14 22:07                                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-16 22:35                                                         ` [devel] *sigh* Michael Shigorin
2009-01-16 22:41                                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-14 22:16                                                       ` [devel] /etc/udev/rules.d Dmitry V. Levin
2009-01-15  4:46                                                       ` [devel] Бага ( формально ) может и нет , а вот проблема есть! Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-16 22:50                                                         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-16 22:56                                                           ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-17 14:30                                                             ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-17 14:45                                                               ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-17 16:27                                                                 ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-17 16:41                                                                   ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-17 22:21                                                                     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-18 15:22                                                               ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-16 22:34                                                     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-16 22:36                                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-16 22:43                                                       ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-01-13  7:04                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-13  7:08                                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-14 21:21                                           ` [devel] [JT] kernel collab (or the abscence thereof) Michael Shigorin
2009-01-10  7:03                               ` [devel] Бага ( формально ) может и нет , а вот проблема есть! Anton Farygin
2009-01-10 11:17                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10 17:59                                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10 18:08                                     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-01-10 18:19                                       ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-10 18:29                                         ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-10 18:30                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-01-10 18:32                                             ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-10 20:06                                             ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-11  5:34                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-11  6:37                                           ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-11 23:53                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-12  5:27                                               ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-12 22:45                                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-10 18:09                                     ` Led
2009-01-10 18:22                                       ` Anton Farygin
2009-01-11  5:36                                     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-11  6:49                                       ` Michail Yakushin
2009-01-11 23:56                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-01-09 12:12     ` [devel] [JT] " Mykola S. Grechukh
2009-01-09 12:15       ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-01-09 12:46     ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff
2009-01-09 13:39     ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov
2009-01-10 15:17       ` Michael Shigorin

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