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From: "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Devel discussion list <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 0/3] Make a daemon from the hasher-priv
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:35:33 +0300
Message-ID: <20191216093533.GA26143@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+qzennvG7s_EJCi_ZXYuzK2Yf-nxb1SmchsbUyz44c+ffrmww@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:50:13AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:42 PM Alex Gladkov <legion@altlinux.ru> wrote:
> > The hasher-priv is a SUID utility. This is not good. Separation of the
> > server and client parts will allow us to remove SUID flag.
> 
> Removing the SUID flag shouldn't be an end in itself. You're still
> running a process with root privileges which serves user requests.
> It's the same, except that instead of the SUID flag, the process just
> starts as root.  So you are not improving privilege separation or
> something, you are only limiting the ability of the user to tamper
> with the SUID binary. And tampering with the binary should be
> pointless anyway (unless glibc is faulty and permits arbitrary code
> injection, etc.).

While turning a suid root executable into a daemon doesn't automagically
make everything more secure, it's an important move in the right direction.

Firstly, the attack surface of a suid root executable is larger than
of the equivalent root daemon on the other side of a unix domain socket,
so this change narrows the attack surface.

Secondly, this change opens the way for more elaborate privilege separation.

Thirdly, it makes hasher available for PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS'ed
processes (e.g. self-seccomp'ed) that cannot make use of suid executables.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-16  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-13 11:42 Alex Gladkov
2019-12-13 11:42 ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] " Alex Gladkov
2020-09-17 13:10   ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 19:43     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-01 21:24       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 23:38         ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-09-17 13:10   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] *literacy* Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:11   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] caller.c Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:55     ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:11   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] caller_server.c, caller_task.c Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 19:47     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-09-17 13:11   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] config.c Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-18 10:42     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-17 13:12   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] hasher-privd.c Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:12   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] logging.c Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:12   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] Makefile Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 15:09     ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-18 10:48     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-18 10:54       ` Andrey Savchenko
2020-09-18 11:33     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-18 12:24       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-17 13:12   ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 1/3] server.conf Arseny Maslennikov
2020-09-18 10:50     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-18 10:57       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2019-12-13 11:42 ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 2/3] Add systemd and sysvinit service files Alex Gladkov
2020-06-17 22:31   ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2020-06-17 22:38     ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2020-06-17 22:50       ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-06-17 22:43     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-06-17 22:53       ` Mikhail Novosyolov
2020-09-17 13:10   ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 17:25     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-01 17:50       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2019-12-13 11:42 ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 3/3] Add cgroup support Alex Gladkov
2020-09-17 13:11   ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 19:17     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-01 20:23       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-02  0:42         ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-02 11:46           ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-02 12:58             ` Alexey Gladkov
2019-12-15  8:50 ` [devel] [PATCH hasher-priv v1 0/3] Make a daemon from the hasher-priv Alexey Tourbin
2019-12-15 23:33   ` Andrey Savchenko
2019-12-16  9:35   ` Dmitry V. Levin [this message]
2019-12-29 11:03     ` Alexey Tourbin
2020-03-16 10:34 ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-06-17 22:01 ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-09-17 13:09 ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 17:21   ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-01 17:44     ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 20:01       ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-10-01 21:53         ` Arseny Maslennikov
2020-10-01 23:55           ` Alexey Gladkov

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