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From: Andrey Savchenko <bircoph@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Linux kernel packages development <devel-kernel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [d-kernel] [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 13:31:04 +0300
Message-ID: <20220606133104.bbe440d29617fc9f7f8778ad@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yp3G6BNycsU28o7T@asheplyakov-rocket>

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 13:20:40 +0400 Alexey Sheplyakov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 04:04:56PM +0300, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote:
> > > People who actually need security 
> > > 
> > > 1) don't use out-of-order CPUs (to avoid Meltdown, Spectre, etc)
> > > 2) don't use Linux (so the kernel can be actually audited)
> > > 3) don't exist
> > 
> > I don't get the point of these. If we don't need security why should we
> > bother with user/group processes/filesystems separation and permissions,
> > chrooting, etc. We have a superuser, lets everything run with it!
> 
> 1. In a way we already do (on desktop systems). All applications run with
>    the same uid and have the same permissions. Nothing prevents firefox
>    from sending my private GPG key to $BIG_BROTHER, or removing all files
>    (in $HOME), etc.

Just use firejail.
  
Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-02  0:31 Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02  7:14 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-02 12:40   ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 13:29     ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 15:58     ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 17:06       ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 18:26       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-02 18:42         ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 18:56           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03  6:27             ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 19:08           ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03  6:16             ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 12:41               ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03 12:54                 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 15:15 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-02 16:39   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03  6:25     ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 15:07       ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-05  7:48     ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-05  7:59       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-06 14:31         ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-05 13:04       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06  9:20         ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-06 10:31           ` Andrey Savchenko [this message]
2022-06-06 12:10             ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-06 12:53           ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06 12:59             ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-08 14:27             ` [d-kernel] right to profile (Re: [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open) Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-15 11:19               ` [d-kernel] [JT] Re: right to profile Michael Shigorin

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