Re: [Comm-en] ALT Linux Education 10.1 - Language and software installation problems

Re: [Comm-en] ALT Linux Education 10.1 - Language and software installation problems

[Michael Shigorin]

Guten tag,

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 05:15:22PM +0100, Aly Lutgen wrote:
> 1. Messages in the Lazarus IDE (during the build) are in
> Russian. Is there any possibility to change them to English?

I've scratched my head and made a quick yandex search for
"lazarus ide сообщения при сборке на русском" and looks like this
bug might be worth attention: http://bugzilla.altlinux.org/25991

Have a look at /etc/fpc.cfg and try replacing "errorru.msg" with
"errore.msg"; if that helps, please file a bugreport referencing
that one and stating that fpc localization is hardwired and thus
incorrect (because correct localization was one of the explicit
primary goals of ALT Linux since the beginning).

> 2. Software installation failed for several educational
> applications (I gave up after the fourth trial).

Might help to name a few and probably describe the hardware. :)

PS: an old friend's article on implicit/explicit things:
http://egorfine.com/en/articles/priceless-bugreports/
(might turn out just as useful in your communications
with the children!)

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Re: [Comm-en] ALT Linux Education 10.1 - Language and software installation problems

[Michael Shigorin]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 03:42:01PM +0100, Aly Lutgen wrote:
> As I never subscribed to a mailing list before, I'm not sure if
> pushing the "Reply All" button is the correct way to continue a
> discussion...

Some email clients recognize headers like Mail-Followup-To:,
but this particular list has Reply-To: set anyways; either way,
there's a mode/mood when one specifically wants to ask for
someone else's attention (or can't presume they're on the list
and actually reading the traffic), and thus sets the explicit Cc:
(the "low-noise" mode is to reply to ML only).

In this case of me not filtering community-en@ so it just hits my
inbox being quite a low-volume list there's just no difference. :)

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> > Have a look at /etc/fpc.cfg and try replacing "errorru.msg"
> > with "errore.msg".
> This is the solution; all messages are in English now. Thanks a lot!

Glad to hear :-)  Looks like there's "errordu.msg" as well
(which is UTF-8 version of "errord.msg", what a cute naming).

> > if that helps, please file a bugreport referencing that one
> > and stating that fpc localization is hardwired and thus
> > incorrect (because correct localization was one of the
> > explicit primary goals of ALT Linux since the beginning).
> I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you exactly mean. Must I
> post at the bug report webpage? Sending the message to some
> bugreport email? Dealing with bugreports is another thing that
> I never did...

We've got a sort of introduction text here:
http://altlinux.org/BugTracking/BugzillaMiniHowto
-- but it's in Russian; maybe Yandex.Translate is good enough:
http://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.ru.333c2ebd-641841b4-f8bfa03c-74722d776562/https/www.altlinux.org/BugTracking/BugzillaMiniHowto
(there are obvious caveats like "phone number" but a quick skim 
tells me it should be legible overall).

As it's a considerable bug (albeit somewhat nontrivial due to
fpc's approach to localization) I've spent some more time to
post it along with a draft of the script and fpc.spec patch:
http://bugzilla.altlinux.org/45589 -- it's always easier to
get down to a bugreport with a patch (as in "they do *really*
need that it seems") but you were not supposed to file that
yourself when it's not a habit :-)

If you register there, you can subscribe to the bug by adding
yourself to CC list.

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> Michael Shigorin wrote:
> > Might help to name a few and probably describe the hardware.
> So, I run ALT Linux Education 10.1 (fully updated) on a VMware
> Workstation 16 virtual machine: Other Linux 5.x kernel x64,
> 1 CPU with 2 cores, 2 GB of memory, 25 GB harddisk.

Should not be a problem.

> Applications that I tried to install (using the "Software"
> application):
>   - Tux, of Math Command
>   - Mandelbulber 2
>   - XaoS
> As I said, in all these cases, installation started and aborted
> with a "Data is corrupt" error message.

Hmm, I don't have any significant experience with gnome-software
(it's the package that holds that application) so can't comment;
*might* be its own bug.

> I'll try further applications and installation using Synaptics
> Package Manager as soon as I have the possibility. And will let
> you know if there were some applications that actually did
> install.

That's what I would do myself either :-)

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