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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  @ 2009-02-13  0:55 ` Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13  9:06   ` Денис Смирнов
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13  0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:34PM +0300, Girar Builder robot wrote:

> 2009-Feb-10 15:25:03 :: task #648 for sisyphus started:
> #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git
[...]
> 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch `sisyphus'

Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:

firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed in /lib/firmware/
sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation

См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy


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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13  0:55 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 10:58     ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov
                       ` (2 more replies)
  2009-02-13  9:06   ` Денис Смирнов
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Devel discussion list

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On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:34PM +0300, Girar Builder robot wrote:
> > 2009-Feb-10 15:25:03 :: task #648 for sisyphus started:
> > #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from
> > /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git
>
> [...]
>
> > 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch
> > `sisyphus'
>
> Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:
>
> firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed
> in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging
> violation
>
> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy

/.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng
/.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not be 'noarch'
sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation

1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты
2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми

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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13  0:55 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
@ 2009-02-13  9:06   ` Денис Смирнов
  2009-02-13 12:01     ` Alexey Gladkov
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Денис Смирнов @ 2009-02-13  9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:55:48AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>> #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git
DVL> [...]
>> 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch `sisyphus'
DVL> Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:
DVL> firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed in /lib/firmware/
DVL> sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation
DVL> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy

Эта firmware отличается от других тем, что ее не нужно
загружать при старте драйверов. Это просто обновление прошивки. Драйвера
ее сами обновлять не умеют, и udev'ам и прочим умным утилитам об этой
firmware знать не следует.

Как это правильно паковать?

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* [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1)
  2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
@ 2009-02-13 10:58     ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-02-13 11:54     ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13 11:58     ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Alexey Gladkov
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From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-02-13 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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Twas brillig at 11:27:37 13.02.2009 UTC+03 when shrek@altlinux.ru did gyre and gimble:

 VVI> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты
 VVI> 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми

Вот поэтому полиси и надо обсуждать :)

Предлагаю считать это началом обсуждения.

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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 10:58     ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov
@ 2009-02-13 11:54     ` Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13 12:17       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 11:58     ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Alexey Gladkov
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Devel discussion list

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On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
[...]
> > Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:
> >
> > firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed
> > in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging
> > violation
> >
> > См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy
> 
> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng
> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not be 'noarch'
> sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation
> 
> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты

Могут, но зачем?

> 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми

Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми?


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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13  8:27   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 10:58     ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-02-13 11:54     ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2009-02-13 11:58     ` Alexey Gladkov
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Gladkov @ 2009-02-13 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты

Сама firmware другие файлы не содержит. Пакет таскать может, но лучше
их выделять в отдельный пакет.

> 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми

Можно конкретный пример?

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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13  9:06   ` Денис Смирнов
@ 2009-02-13 12:01     ` Alexey Gladkov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Gladkov @ 2009-02-13 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Денис Смирнов wrote:
то просто обновление прошивки. Драйвера
> ее сами обновлять не умеют, и udev'ам и прочим умным утилитам об этой
> firmware знать не следует.

Значит это не firmware, а именно прошивка.

> Как это правильно паковать?

Тогда не нужно называть пакет с префиксом "firmware-". Этого будет
достаточно для правильной запаковки этого пакета.

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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13 11:54     ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2009-02-13 12:17       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 14:30         ` Michail Yakushin
  2009-02-13 15:57         ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Devel discussion list

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On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:
> > >
> > > firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be
> > > placed in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware
> > > packaging violation
> > >
> > > См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy
> >
> > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should
> > start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng
> > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not
> > be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging
> > violation
> >
> > 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты
>
> Могут, но зачем?

пример - kernel-image-std-*

>
> > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми
>
> Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми?

не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно. 
пример - alsa-firmware

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* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1
  2009-02-13 12:17       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
@ 2009-02-13 14:30         ` Michail Yakushin
  2009-02-13 17:15           ` [devel] firmware-* Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13 15:57         ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michail Yakushin @ 2009-02-13 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
>>> On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1:
>>>>
>>>> firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be
>>>> placed in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware
>>>> packaging violation
>>>>
>>>> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy
>>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should
>>> start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng
>>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not
>>> be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging
>>> violation
>>>
>>> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты
>> Могут, но зачем?
> 
> пример - kernel-image-std-*
А что с ядрами делать? они фирмварь содержат.


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* Re: [devel] alsa-firmware
  2009-02-13 12:17       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  2009-02-13 14:30         ` Michail Yakushin
@ 2009-02-13 15:57         ` Dmitry V. Levin
  2009-02-13 16:37           ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Devel discussion list

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On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
[...]
> > > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми
> >
> > Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми?
> 
> не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно. 
> пример - alsa-firmware

alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.i586.rpm и alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.x86_64.rpm
внутри ничем не отличаются, предлагаю переименовать бинарный пакет в
firmware-alsa и сделать его noarch'ем.


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* Re: [devel] alsa-firmware
  2009-02-13 15:57         ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2009-02-13 16:37           ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
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From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Friday 13 February 2009 18:57:47 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми
> > >
> > > Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми?
> >
> > не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно.
> > пример - alsa-firmware
>
> alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.i586.rpm и alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.x86_64.rpm
> внутри ничем не отличаются, предлагаю переименовать бинарный пакет в
> firmware-alsa и сделать его noarch'ем.

дык решили уже

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* Re: [devel] firmware-*
  2009-02-13 14:30         ` Michail Yakushin
@ 2009-02-13 17:15           ` Dmitry V. Levin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 05:30:20PM +0300, Michail Yakushin wrote:
> Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote:
[...]
> >>>> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy
> >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should
> >>> start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng
> >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not
> >>> be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging
> >>> violation
> >>>
> >>> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты
> >> Могут, но зачем?
> > 
> > пример - kernel-image-std-*
> А что с ядрами делать? они фирмварь содержат.

Причём на разных архитектурах состав отличается.   Ну что же, это значит,
что пакеты kernel-image-* являются исключением из правила.


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