[devel] [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[devel] [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Anton Farygin]

FYI.

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 23:01:39 -0500
From: David Dawes <dawes@XFree86.Org>
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Subject: Re: 4.4.0 status update
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On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 04:36:31AM +0100, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:
>David Dawes wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:28:27PM -0500, David Dawes wrote:
>> 
>>>XFree86 4.4.0 release status update.
>>>
>>>I'm planning to tag the third 4.4.0 release candidate (4.3.99.903) within
>>>the next week.
>> 
>> 
>> This was delayed by the licence discussion.  I'm going to tag 4.4.0 RC3
>> (4.3.99.903) tomorrow.
>
>What's the estimated release date? I have quite a big SiS driver update 
>in the queue which MUST go into 4.4 otherwise it is useless on newer 
>chipsets. Just need to do some testing first which would take about a week.

I'd estimate end of February.

David
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[devel] [dawes@XFree86.Org: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3]

[Anton Farygin]

FYI. это немного лучше ;-)

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Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3
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The third release candidate for XFree86 4.4.0 (aka 4.3.99.903) has
been tagged.  Source and patches can be found at
<http://www.xfree86.org/develsnaps/>.  The download area at
<ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/snapshots/4.3.99.903/> will be
populated over the next few days.  The source is there now, and
binaries will follow.

If you have any outstanding critical bugs that are not fixed in
this release candidate, or if you find new problems, please send
a note here with details.  The 4.4.0 release is expected to be
finalised by the end of February 2004.

The latest update to our xtest package (version 4.0.6) can be found
at <ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/xtest/>.  For information
about how to build and run it, see the test/xsuite/NOTES.xf86 file.
Build and run scripts are provided to make running xtest a relatively
straightforward process.

David
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[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Alexey Tourbin]

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:19:24PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> Subject: Re: 4.4.0 status update

On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:20:11PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> FYI. это немного лучше ;-)
> Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

А это немного хуже:

Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187

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Re: [devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Peter V. Saveliev]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:21:55 +0300
Alexey Tourbin <at@altlinux.ru> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:19:24PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> > Subject: Re: 4.4.0 status update
> 
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:20:11PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> > FYI. это немного лучше ;-)
> > Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3
> 
> А это немного хуже:
> 
> Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187
> 

http://www.xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html

Если не секрет, что именно не в ней не устроило? То, что нельзя
использовать в своей рекламе название "The XFree86 Project, Inc" (the
name of The XFree86 Project, Inc shall not be used in advertising or
otherwise to promote the sale...)?

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[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Alexey Tourbin]

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:21:55AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187

Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.

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[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Alexey Tourbin]

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:10:44AM +0300, Peter V. Saveliev wrote:
> > Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> > http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187
> 
> http://www.xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html
> 
> Если не секрет, что именно не в ней не устроило? То, что нельзя

Читайте внимательнее, там всё написано и есть ссылки.  Новое требование
лицензии `advertising cluse' является дополнительным ограничением
(restriction) на ПО.  Это ограничение противоречит GPL.

> использовать в своей рекламе название "The XFree86 Project, Inc" (the
> name of The XFree86 Project, Inc shall not be used in advertising or
> otherwise to promote the sale...)?

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Re: [devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[mouse]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:19:06AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:21:55AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> > Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> > http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187
> 
> Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.
Интересно, как теперь у нас будет с этим? Debian в ауте, MDK тоже.

Rgds,
Anton

[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Alexey Tourbin]

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:10:17PM +0300, mouse@lrn.ru wrote:
> > Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.
> Интересно, как теперь у нас будет с этим? Debian в ауте, MDK тоже.

Думаю, что нужно спокойно выждать и посмотреть, как будут вести себя
крупные вендоры.

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[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Michael Shigorin]

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 01:08:39PM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> > > Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> Читайте внимательнее, там всё написано и есть ссылки.  Новое
> требование лицензии `advertising cluse' является дополнительным
> ограничением (restriction) на ПО.  Это ограничение противоречит
> GPL.

SFW?  Или у них нет больше non-GPLed code?

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Re: [devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Anton Farygin]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:21:55AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:19:24PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> > Subject: Re: 4.4.0 status update
> 
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:20:11PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> > FYI. это немного лучше ;-)
> > Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3
> 
> А это немного хуже:
> 
> Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187

Но не так страшно, как кажется.

Rgds,
Rider

Re: [devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Anton Farygin]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:10:17PM +0300, mouse@lrn.ru wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:19:06AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:21:55AM +0300, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> > > Mandrake Blocked By XFree86 4.4 License
> > > http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/02/16/2030207.shtml?tid=106&tid=147&tid=185&tid=187
> > 
> > Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.
> Интересно, как теперь у нас будет с этим? Debian в ауте, MDK тоже.

Мы выдержим паузу.. соблюсти условия новой лицензии - не проблема. А вот
перейти на другой X-сервер... 

Rgds,
Rider

[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Mikhail Zabaluev]

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Hello Anton,

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:10:57PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
>
> > > Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.
> > Интересно, как теперь у нас будет с этим? Debian в ауте, MDK тоже.
> 
> Мы выдержим паузу.. соблюсти условия новой лицензии - не проблема.

Типа, добавить уведомление ко всем программам и библиотекам, которые
линкуются с XFree86-libs?

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[devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Michael Shigorin]

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:38:20AM +0300, Mikhail Zabaluev wrote:
> Типа, добавить уведомление ко всем программам и библиотекам,
> которые линкуются с XFree86-libs?

Типа, а при чем тут линкуются? (читал)

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Re: [devel] Re: [dawes@XFree86.Org: Re: 4.4.0 status update]

[Anton Farygin]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:38:20AM +0300, Mikhail Zabaluev wrote:
> Hello Anton,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:10:57PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> >
> > > > Там же: xfree86 4.4 wont ever be packaged for debian.
> > > Интересно, как теперь у нас будет с этим? Debian в ауте, MDK тоже.
> > 
> > Мы выдержим паузу.. соблюсти условия новой лицензии - не проблема.
> 
> Типа, добавить уведомление ко всем программам и библиотекам, которые
> линкуются с XFree86-libs?

Лицензия не требует уведомления на динамически слинкованный код.