From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=9RaRR9aLZkFRaLcorQGy1v6O8HiX4ZdGOMjhf7Nv3vk=; b=vGoGl4Kd/7QBxSgZhc/gsV/E2vsiNMijwwW6qIN61qVdwQK7WYrCwSaVqOL6kqqu7R S53pg127HlEHYF9cbhKPuZg5ufUzoT4vB+eMkSLiVbKEhUsUCUtkQPMQhF6DoL5A0KpT obQFMYc4ndY8PkfynTIwSWCfvQZw25PANK3sg= Sender: ds.seiros@gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:58:04 +0400 From: "=?koi8-r?B?5MXOydMg883J0s7P1w==?=" To: =?koi8-r?B?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= Message-ID: <20111125055804.GA30221@t60p.mithraen.ru> References: <4ECAC1C8.3020704@bungarus.info> <20111122130432.GA17379@t60p.mithraen.ru> <20111124094152.GA12877@t60p.mithraen.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [room] =?koi8-r?b?8M/U1MXSyc7H?= X-BeenThere: smoke-room@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Id: =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:59:05 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 06:27:29AM +0700, Michael Pozhidaev wrote: MP> =EF=C2=CF=C2=DD=C1=D1 =D4=CF, =DE=D4=CF =D4=D9 =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC, = =D1 =C2=D9 =D3=CB=C1=DA=C1=CC, =DE=D4=CF =CE=C1=D2=CF=C4 =CE=C5 =CE=C1=C4= =CF =DA=C1=C7=CF=CE=D1=D4=D8 =D7 MP> "=D3=D7=C5=D4=CC=CF=C5 =C2=D5=C4=D5=DD=C5=C5" =CE=C1=D3=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF.= =F0=D2=C5=C4=CC=C1=C7=C1=D1 systemd, =D4=D2=C1=C4=C9=C3=C9=CF=CE=CE=D9=CA = init =C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE MP> =CF=D3=D4=C1=D4=D8=D3=D1 =CE=C1 =CD=C5=D3=D4=C5 =C4=CC=D1 =D4=C5=C8, = =CB=D4=CF =DC=D4=CF=C7=CF =C8=CF=DE=C5=D4, =C1, =CE=C1 =CD=CF=CA =D7=DA=C7= =CC=D1=C4, =D3=C5=D2=D7=C5=D2=D9 =C9 MP> =D0=CC=C1=C7=C9 =C2=D5=C4=D5=D4 =DC=D4=CF=C7=CF =C8=CF=D4=C5=D4=D8 =C5= =D3=CC=C9 =CE=C5 =D7=D3=C5, =D4=CF =D7 =C2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C9=CE=D3=D4=D7=C5. =FC=D4=CF =D0=D2=C1=CB=D4=C9=DE=C5=D3=CB=C9 =CE=C5=D7=CF=DA=CD=CF=D6=CE=CF.= =E9=CD=C5=CE=CE=CF =C9=DA-=DA=C1 =D0=CF=C4=C8=CF=C4=C1 systemd "=D7=D3=C5 = =D7 =CF=C4=CE=CF=CD". =F0=CF=D4=CF=CD=D5 =DE=D4=CF =DC=D4=D5 =D3=CF=D7=CD=C5=D3=D4=C9=CD=CF=D3=D4= =D8 =D0=D2=C9=C4=C5=D4=D3=D1 =CF=C2=C5=D3=D0=C5=DE=C9=D7=C1=D4=D8 =D7=CF = =D7=D3=C5=CD =F0=EF, =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=D5=C0=DD=C5=CD=D3=D1 systemd. =EF=DE=C5=D7=C9=C4=CE=CF =DE= =D4=CF =CE=C5 =D7=D3=C5 =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2=D9 =F0=EF =C2=D5=C4=D5=D4 =DA=C1=C2= =CF=D4=C9=D4=D8=D3=D1 =CF=C2 =DC=D4=CF=CD. =F0=CF=D7=D4=CF=D2=C0=D3=D8 =C5=DD=C5 =D2=C1=DA: 1. =CF=C4=CE=C1 =D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=CD=C1 -- =CF=C4=CE=C1 =C6=D5=CE=CB=C3= =C9=D1 2. =C7=D2=C1=CD=CF=D4=CE=CF=C5 API 3. =C7=D2=C1=CD=CF=D4=CE=C1=D1 =D2=C5=C1=CC=C9=DA=C1=C3=C9=D1 =EC=C0=C2=CF=C5 =D3=C9=D3=D4=C5=CD=CE=CF=C5 =F0=EF =CE=C1=D2=D5=DB=C1=C0=DD= =C5=C5 =D0=C5=D2=D7=D9=C5 =C4=D7=C1 =D0=D5=CE=CB=D4=C1 -- =D7=D2=C5=C4=C9= =D4=C5=CC=D8=D3=D4=D7=CF =D7 =C4=CF=CC=C7=CF=D3=D2=CF=DE=CE=CF=CA =D0=C5=D2=D3=D0=C5=CB=D4=C9=D7=C5, =CE= =C5=D3=CD=CF=D4=D2=D1 =CE=C1 =CC=C0=C2=D9=C5 =C2=CF=CE=D5=D3=D9 =D7 =CB=D2= =C1=D4=CB=CF=D3=D2=CF=DE=CE=CF=CA. =ED=CE=C5 =CF=DE=C5=CE=D8 =CE=D2=C1=D7=D1=D4=D3=D1 =C9=C4=C5=C9 =C9 =D0=CF= =C4=C8=CF=C4=D9 =DA=C1=CC=CF=D6=C5=CE=CE=D9=C5 =D7 systemd. =EE=CF =D6=C5= =CC=C1=CE=C9=C5 =DA=C1=D3=D5=CE=D5=D4=D8 =D0=CF=CC-=EF=F3 =D7 =CF=C4=CE=CF =D0=D2=C9=CC=CF= =D6=C5=CE=C9=C5 -- =DC=D4=CF =C7=CC=D5=D0=D9=C5 =D0=CF=CE=D4=D9. 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