From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:26:22 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin To: =?koi8-r?B?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= Message-ID: <20070915082622.GH22022@osdn.org.ua> Mail-Followup-To: =?koi8-r?B?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= , lakostis@altlinux.org, shrek@altlinux.org References: <40babb620709140959l56d77509v964627f5b2d37e07@mail.gmail.com> <20070914170244.GV22022@osdn.org.ua> <40babb620709141009g71fd9aabxc0b1d5afb2440395@mail.gmail.com> <20070914171445.GO21982@osdn.org.ua> <40babb620709141020p1f3dfb2wf3d396389d73db3d@mail.gmail.com> <20070914172754.GP21982@osdn.org.ua> <40babb620709141046t4cf7aca1ta407a0c88e9308bb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <40babb620709141046t4cf7aca1ta407a0c88e9308bb@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: shrek@altlinux.org, lakostis@altlinux.org Subject: Re: [room] =?koi8-r?b?7sXNzs/HzyDPINPQz9PPws7P09TRyCDQz8zY2s/XwdTF?= =?koi8-r?b?zNE=?= X-BeenThere: smoke-room@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: shigorin@gmail.com, =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Id: =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:26:23 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:46:26PM +0400, ALT Linux User wrote: > Вот именно... Поэтому и получается, что некий обобщённый > среднестатистический пользователь зависит от дистрибутива > линукс больше, чем при таком же пользовании оффтопиком. Вот хорошая формулировка, почему это не так: "[...] we run into the simple fact that while the modern Linux distributions really are fairly easy to use, if you run into a problem, new users are going to have real trouble finding an answer to their questions. Now, Windows can also be a pain to use. People are just so used to it that they don't think about it that much. But, when do they need to find help, it's much easier to find than it is in Linux." А "почему при этом линукс" -- вывод получается такой: "OK, so despite all that, why do I think desktop Linux is going to places? Well, for starters, the competition has shot itself in the foot. I could go on and on about what's wrong with Vista. But, the bottom line is that it doesn't give users anything they really want that they don't already have in XP." http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3014149484.html PS: ещё оттуда же: "Linux insiders do fight too much among themselves, and they tend to make those fights much too public. I once asked, "Is Debian dying," because of all its in-fighting. Things have calmed down over in Debian-land, but if I were a new user, and I walked into Debian during some of their bad spells lately, I'd run, not walk, to the closest exit, screaming "Take me back Bill! I'm sorry; I'll use Vista from now on!"" Дам-ка я копию нашим доблестным делящим xorg. :) Костик, в первую очередь тебе. -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/