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* [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
@ 2008-02-15 21:43 Michael Shigorin
  2008-02-15 21:53 ` Dmitry V. Levin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Shigorin @ 2008-02-15 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sisyphus

	Здравствуйте.
"Что это было?"

pad:~> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                                                          
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libFS-devel libICE-devel libSM-devel libX11-devel libXScrnSaver-devel libXTrap-devel libXau-devel libXaw-devel libXcomposite-devel libXcursor-devel libXdamage-devel
  libXdmcp-devel libXevie-devel libXext-devel libXfixes-devel libXfont-devel libXfontcache-devel libXi-devel libXinerama-devel libXmu-devel libXp-devel libXpm-devel
  libXrandr-devel libXrender-devel libXres-devel libXt-devel libXtst-devel libXv-devel libXvMC-devel libXxf86dga-devel libXxf86misc-devel libXxf86vm-devel libdmx-devel
  libdrm-devel libexpat-devel libfontenc-devel libfreetype-devel libmesa-devel libxcb-devel libxkbfile-devel libxkbui-devel xorg-x11-compat-devel xorg-x11-proto-devel
  xorg-x11-xtrans-devel zlib-devel
The following packages have been kept back
  libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3 rxvt-unicode
0 upgraded, 45 newly installed, 0 removed and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/4772kB of archives.
After unpacking 23.6MB of additional disk space will be used.

Ну rxvt-unicode я сам захолдил, пока разбира(лись|ются) с events;
а за что xorg-x11-devel или что это потянулось _при отсутствии_
устанавливаемых или обновляемых пакетов?

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/


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* Re: [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
  2008-02-15 21:43 [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему Michael Shigorin
@ 2008-02-15 21:53 ` Dmitry V. Levin
  2008-02-15 22:49   ` Michael Shigorin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2008-02-15 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Sisyphus mailing list

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:43:20PM +0200, Michael Shigorin wrote:
> 	Здравствуйте.
> "Что это было?"
> 
> pad:~> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                                                          
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libFS-devel libICE-devel libSM-devel libX11-devel libXScrnSaver-devel libXTrap-devel libXau-devel libXaw-devel libXcomposite-devel libXcursor-devel libXdamage-devel
>   libXdmcp-devel libXevie-devel libXext-devel libXfixes-devel libXfont-devel libXfontcache-devel libXi-devel libXinerama-devel libXmu-devel libXp-devel libXpm-devel
>   libXrandr-devel libXrender-devel libXres-devel libXt-devel libXtst-devel libXv-devel libXvMC-devel libXxf86dga-devel libXxf86misc-devel libXxf86vm-devel libdmx-devel
>   libdrm-devel libexpat-devel libfontenc-devel libfreetype-devel libmesa-devel libxcb-devel libxkbfile-devel libxkbui-devel xorg-x11-compat-devel xorg-x11-proto-devel
>   xorg-x11-xtrans-devel zlib-devel
> The following packages have been kept back
>   libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3 rxvt-unicode
> 0 upgraded, 45 newly installed, 0 removed and 4 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/4772kB of archives.
> After unpacking 23.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> Ну rxvt-unicode я сам захолдил, пока разбира(лись|ются) с events;
> а за что xorg-x11-devel или что это потянулось _при отсутствии_
> устанавливаемых или обновляемых пакетов?

Добавь любой из этих "лишних" пакетов в rpm::ignore и посмотри, какие
пакеты окажутся в состоянии "kept back".


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* Re: [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
  2008-02-15 21:53 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2008-02-15 22:49   ` Michael Shigorin
  2008-02-15 23:18     ` Sergey Bolshakov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Shigorin @ 2008-02-15 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Sisyphus mailing list

On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 12:53:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   libFS-devel libICE-devel libSM-devel libX11-devel
> >   libXScrnSaver-devel libXTrap-devel libXau-devel
> >   libXaw-devel libXcomposite-devel libXcursor-devel
> >   libXdamage-devel libXdmcp-devel libXevie-devel
> >   libXext-devel libXfixes-devel libXfont-devel
> >   libXfontcache-devel libXi-devel libXinerama-devel
> >   libXmu-devel libXp-devel libXpm-devel libXrandr-devel
> >   libXrender-devel libXres-devel libXt-devel libXtst-devel
> >   libXv-devel libXvMC-devel libXxf86dga-devel
> >   libXxf86misc-devel libXxf86vm-devel libdmx-devel
> >   libdrm-devel libexpat-devel libfontenc-devel
> >   libfreetype-devel libmesa-devel libxcb-devel
> >   libxkbfile-devel libxkbui-devel xorg-x11-compat-devel
> >   xorg-x11-proto-devel xorg-x11-xtrans-devel zlib-devel
> > а за что xorg-x11-devel или что это потянулось _при
> > отсутствии_ устанавливаемых или обновляемых пакетов?
> Добавь любой из этих "лишних" пакетов в rpm::ignore и посмотри,
> какие пакеты окажутся в состоянии "kept back".

Добавил libFS-devel; список NEW уменьшился на него, kept back --
не изменился:

The following packages have been kept back
  libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3 rxvt-unicode

из них на холде последний, avahi переклинило так:

$ sudo apt-get install libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been
created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libavahi-qt3: Depends: /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so
  E: Broken packages
  
PS: добавил на всякий zlib-devel в ignore -- эффект аналогичный.

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/


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* Re: [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
  2008-02-15 22:49   ` Michael Shigorin
@ 2008-02-15 23:18     ` Sergey Bolshakov
  2008-02-15 23:31       ` Led
  2008-02-19  3:24       ` Alexey Tourbin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sergey Bolshakov @ 2008-02-15 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sisyphus

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Shigorin <mike-nVB1ZwtFQf3sG83rWm+8vg@public.gmane.org> writes:
[skipped]
 > The following packages have been kept back
 >   libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3 rxvt-unicode

 > из них на холде последний, avahi переклинило так:

 > $ sudo apt-get install libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3
 > Reading Package Lists... Done
 > Building Dependency Tree... Done
 > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
 > unstable
 > distribution that some required packages have not yet been
 > created
 > or been moved out of Incoming.
 > The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 >   libavahi-qt3: Depends: /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so
 >   E: Broken packages

Упс, мой косяк, похоже -- avahi-qt3.pc не туда уложил.
/me .oO до чего rpm дотошный пошёл ...

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* Re: [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
  2008-02-15 23:18     ` Sergey Bolshakov
@ 2008-02-15 23:31       ` Led
  2008-02-19  3:24       ` Alexey Tourbin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Led @ 2008-02-15 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussions

Saturday, 16 February 2008 01:18:16 Sergey Bolshakov написав:
> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Shigorin
> >>>>> <mike-nVB1ZwtFQf3sG83rWm+8vg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> [skipped]
>
>  > The following packages have been kept back
>  >   libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3 rxvt-unicode
>  >
>  > из них на холде последний, avahi переклинило так:
>  >
>  > $ sudo apt-get install libavahi libavahi-glib libavahi-qt3
>  > Reading Package Lists... Done
>  > Building Dependency Tree... Done
>  > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>  > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
>  > unstable
>  > distribution that some required packages have not yet been
>  > created
>  > or been moved out of Incoming.
>  > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>  >
>  > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  >   libavahi-qt3: Depends: /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so
>  >   E: Broken packages
>
> Упс, мой косяк, похоже -- avahi-qt3.pc не туда уложил.

Угу, это была первая же догадка, как только утром увидел подобное поведение 
apt'а. Даже проверять догадку не стал:)

> /me .oO до чего rpm дотошный пошёл ...



-- 
Led

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* Re: [sisyphus] q: apt-get dist-upgrade: куча околоиксовых -devel ни к чему
  2008-02-15 23:18     ` Sergey Bolshakov
  2008-02-15 23:31       ` Led
@ 2008-02-19  3:24       ` Alexey Tourbin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Tourbin @ 2008-02-19  3:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sisyphus

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On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 02:18:16AM +0300, Sergey Bolshakov wrote:
> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Shigorin <mike-nVB1ZwtFQf3sG83rWm+8vg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>  > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  >   libavahi-qt3: Depends: /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so
>  >   E: Broken packages
> 
> Упс, мой косяк, похоже -- avahi-qt3.pc не туда уложил.
> /me .oO до чего rpm дотошный пошёл ...

Писал об этом здесь:
http://lists.altlinux.org/pipermail/devel/2008-January/068711.html

В avahi-qt3.pc
Libs: -lavahi-qt3
можно понимать как слабую разновидность симлинка.  Теперь rpm
ставит зависимость, чтобы эта ссылка при установке пакета была разрешена.

Это на самом деле в ряде случаев дает очень ценный эффект: если *.pc
файл установился в систему, значит, его можно гарантированно
использовать по назначению (в частности, для линковки через Libs),
без установки каких-либо недостающих пакетов.

Как правило (но не всегда), *.pc файлы нужно класть в *-devel пакеты.

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