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Andrey Rahmatullin =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4:

> The desktop alternatives, Windows and Mac, both have GPU accelerated
> desktops. They are obviously, visibly better than their predecessors.

=FC=D4=CF =CF=D4=CE=CF=D3=C9=D4=D3=D1 =CB WM, =C4=C5=CB=CF=D2=C1=C3=C9=D1=
=CD, =C9 DE.
=EE=C5 =CB =CB=CF=CE=CB=D2=C5=D4=CE=CF=CA =D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=CD=C5, =D2=
=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=C0=DD=C5=CA =D7 =D2=C1=CD=CB=C1=C8 =D3=D4=C1=D2=CF=C7=CF =
WM/DE.

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=CA =D3=D4=C1=D2=D9=CA =D0=D2=CF=D4=CF=CB=CF=CC <-> =D3=D4=C1=D2=D9=CA =C9=
=CC=C9 =CE=CF=D7=D9=CA=20
X-=D3=C5=D2=D7=C5=D2 <-> 2D =C9=CC=C9 3D =C9=CE=D4=C5=D2=C6=C5=CA=D3 =CB =
=C4=D2=C1=CA=D7=C5=D2=C1=CD =C9 GPU.

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=C9=C5=CD =C9 =EF=F3 (=D0=CF=DE=D4=C9) =CE=C5 =CD=C5=CE=D1=C5=D4=D3=D1.

=F0=CF=D4=CF=CD=D5 =D1 =C9 =D3=CB=C1=DA=C1=CC, =DE=D4=CF =CB =CB=CF=CE=CB=
=D2=C5=D4=CE=CF kSquirrel =D3=D4=C1=D4=D8=D1 IMHO =CE=C5 =CF=D4=CE=CF=D3=C9=
=D4=D3=D1.


> some cases these new accelerated desktops can paint over one hundred ti=
mes
> faster than under the old model.

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=D0=D2=CF =CE=C9=C8 =D5=D6=C5 =D0=C9=D3=C1=CC.

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=CE=D4=C1 =C2=D5=C4=D5=D4 =D3=D5=DD=C5=D3=D4=D7=CF=D7=C1=D4=D8=20
>>=D0=C1=D2=C1=CC=CC=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF?
>=20
> =E2=D5=C4=C5=D4 =CD=CF=C4=D5=CC=D8=CE=C1=D1 =D3=D4=D2=D5=CB=D4=D5=D2=C1=
=2E
>=20

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=CE=CF=D0=CF=DE=CB=C9/=C7=C1=CC=CF=DE=CB=C9 =CB=C1=CB =D4=D2=C5=C8=CD=C5=D2=
=CE=D9=C5 =CF=C2=DF=C5=CB=D4=D9 =D3=20
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=D4=CF =CE=D9=CE=C5=DD=CE=C5=C7=CF =D0=D3=C5=D7=C4=CF-3D =D4=C5=CE=D1=CD=C9=
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=D5=C7=CF=CA =D0=D2=CF=D4=CF=CB=CF=CC =CD=C5=D6=C4=D5 =D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=
=CD=C1=CD=C9(=D4=D5=CC=CB=C9=D4=C1=CD=C9)=20
=C9 =D3=C5=D2=D7=C5=D2=CF=CD.
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=CC=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =DC=D4=CF =CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =D2=C1=DA=CF=CB =CF=D4=D2=C5=
=CE=C4=C5=D2=C9=D4=D8 =C9=20
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=CF=D6=C5=D4 =C4=CF=D3=D4=C1=D4=CF=DE=CE=CF =C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=CF =D2=C1=D3=D0=
=CF=DA=CE=C1=D7=C1=D4=D8 =D4=C1=CB=C9=C5=20
3D =CF=C2=DF=C5=CB=D4=D9.

>>=EE=C1=D3=DE=C5=D4 =D4=CF=C7=CF, =DE=D4=CF 3D =C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=C5=C5 - =CD=
=D1=C7=CB=CF =C7=CF=D7=CF=D2=D1 =CE=C5 =D7=D3=C5=C7=C4=C1 =DC=D4=CF =CE=D5=
=D6=CE=CF, =DA=C1=20
>>=C9=D3=CB=CC=C0=DE=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD eye candy.
>=20
> =E1 =CB=C1=D2=D4=C9=CE=CB=C9 zoom'=C9=D4=D8?
>=20

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=C1 =D3 =C3=D7=C5=D4=C1=CD=C9.
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=C1=D4=D8 2D fallback.

> =E2=CC=C9=CE. =FC=D4=CF =D0=D2=CF =D3=C9=D3=D4=C5=CD=CE=D5=C0 =CB=CF=CE=
=D3=CF=CC=D8, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=C1=D1 =C9=DA kernel panic =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=
=D4=D8 =C4=CF=CC=D6=CE=C1.

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=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF.

> =ED=CE=CF=C7=CF =DE=C5=CD. =FE=C9=D4=C1=CA=D4=C5 =D3=D4=C1=D4=D8=C0.

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 =CB=D5=D3=CB=C9=20
=D7=D9=C8=D7=C1=D4=D9=D7=C1=C5=D4.

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=DA fbdev ? =C1 =CB=C1=CB =D6=C5 =CE=C1=D3=DE=C5=D4 =C7=D2=D1=C4=D5=DD=C5=
=CA =D3=CD=C5=D2=D4=C9
>>2D ?
>=20
> =F7=D9 =CD=CE=C5 =CC=D5=DE=DB=C5 =D2=C1=D3=D3=CB=C1=D6=C9=D4=C5 =D3=D0=CF=
=D3=CF=C2=D9 =C4=C9=C1=C7=CE=CF=D3=D4=C9=CB=C9 kernel panic, =D3=CC=D5=DE=
=C9=D7=DB=C5=CA=D3=D1 =D7 =C9=CB=D3=C1=C8.
>=20

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=C4=C5=D4 =C9 =D3 =D0=C1=CE=C9=CB=CF=CA, =DA=C1=D4=D2=CF=CE=D5=D7=DB=C5=CA=
 FB - =D0=CF=D3=CB=CF=CC=D8=CB=D5=20
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=CE =C9 =D4=CF=D4 =D6=C5.

>  Since it knows your video mode, it can preempt your display in emergen=
cy,
> for example a fatal kernel OOPs.

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 =E5=D3=CC=C9 =CB=CF=CE=D3=CF=CC=D8 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=C5=D4 =DE=C5=D2=C5=
=DA =D4=CF=D4 =D6=C5=20
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 =D4=CF Video Mode - =DC=D4=CF =D0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF =D2=C1=DA=D2=C5=DB=C5=CE=
=C9=C5 =C9=20
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=C5=CD=D9 =D7 =C4=D2=C1=CA=D7=C5=D2=C5 - =D4=CF =CB=CF=CE=D3=CF=CC=C9 =CF=
=D4=D2=D5=C2=C1=C0=D4=D3=D1=20
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=C5=CF=CB=C1=D2=D4=D9, =DE=D4=CF=C2=D9=20
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 =C9 =D7=D3=C5=20
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=C1=CA=D7=C5=D2=C1. =F4=CF=C7=C4=C1 =C5=C5 =D5=C4=C5=CC - =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=
=CF single user =C9=20
after-oops.


>=20
>>=F4=C5=CB=D3=D4=CF=D7=D9=C5 =CB=CF=CE=D3=CF=CC=C9, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=C5=
 =C2=D5=C4=D5=D4 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=D4=D8 =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =DE=C5=D2=C5=
=DA 3D-=C4=D2=C1=CA=D7=C5=D2=C1=20
>>(OpenGL ES) - =CD=C5=CE=D1 =DC=D4=CF =D0=D5=C7=C1=C5=D4.
>=20
> =F7=D9 =CE=C5 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=D5=C5=D4=C5=D3=D8 =C8=D4=C5=D2=CD=CF=CD?
> =E9 =C7=C4=C5 =D7=D9 =DC=D4=CF =D7=D9=DE=C9=D4=C1=CC=C9, =D0=D2=CF "=D4=
=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF"?
>=20

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=C1=C3=C9=C0 =C4=D2=C1=CA=D7=C5=D2=CF=D7 =D2=C1=D3=D3=D5=D6=C4=C1=CC=C9. =
=F7 =D4=CF=CD =DE=C9=D3=CC=C5 =D7=20
=C1=C2=DA=C1=C3=C5 =D0=D2=CF

 >>(OpenGL ES)

>>=FA=C1=DE=C5=CD? =E5=D3=CC=C9 =C7=D2=C1=C6=C9=CB=C1 =DA=C1=D0=D5=D3=D4=C9=
=CC=C1=D3=D8 =D1 =D3 =C4=C5=D3=D1=D4=CB=CF=CD =CF=CB=CF=DB=C5=CB =D0=CF=D2=
=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=C0.
> =F3=CD=C5=CC=CF=C5 =DA=C1=D1=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=C5.

=C1 =D0=CF =D3=D5=D4=C9?


>>=EE=CF, =C2=CF=C0=D3=D8, =DC=D4=CF =C2=D5=C4=C5=D4 =D0=CF=CC=CE=CF=D3=D4=
=D8=C0 =CE=CF=D7=D9=CA =D0=D2=CF=D4=CF=CB=CF=CC, =CD=C1=CC=CF =CF=C2=DD=C5=
=C7=CF =C9=CD=C5=C0=DD=C9=CA =D3=20
>>=CE=D9=CE=C5=DB=CE=C9=CD X.
>=20
> =F7=C1=CD =CE=C5 =D2=C1=D3=D3=CB=C1=DA=D9=D7=C1=CC=C9, =DE=D4=CF =CE=D9=
=CE=C5=DB=CE=C9=CA =E8-=D0=D2=CF=D4=CF=CB=CF=CC =D3=CC=C5=C7=CB=C1 =CD=C1=
=DA=C4=C1=CA?
>=20

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 =CF=D4=CE=CF=D3=C9=D4=D3=D1 =CB =CE=C5=CF=D0=D2=C5=C4=C5=CC=C5=CE=CF =CF=
=D4=C4=C1=CC=C5=CE=CE=D9=CD=20
=D7=D2=C5=CD=C5=CE=C1=CD =C9 =CE=C5 =CF=D4=CE=CF=D3=C9=D4=D3=D1 =CB =D3=C5=
=C7=CF=C4=CE=D1=DD=CE=C5=CA =D2=C5=C1=CC=D8=CE=CF=D3=D4=C9. =F3=CF=C7=CC=C1=
=D3=C5=CE.


> Use KDE.

=E1 =D0=CF =D3=D5=D4=C9?


>>=C2=C5=DA Arthur =D7 qt-based =D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=CD=C1=C8 (KDE, Oper=
a)=20
> =F7 Qt3 =C5=C7=CF =C9 =D4=C1=CB =CE=C5=D4. =F7 Qt4 =CF=CE =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=
=D8=DA=D5=C5=D4=D3=D1 =CB=C1=CB painting framework.

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=F3=D5=C2=D0=C9=CB=D3=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF=C5 =D3=C7=CC=C1=D6=C9=D7=C1=CE=C9=C5=
 =DB=D2=C9=C6=D4=CF=D7 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=C1=C5=D4 =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =DE=C5=
=D2=C5=DA XRender.
Qt =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=D5=C5=D4 XRender =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =DE=C5=D2=C5=
=DA Arthur.

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 XRender =C9 =D3=C7=CC=C1=D6=C9=D7=C1=C5=D4 =DB=D2=C9=C6=D4=D9 =CE=C5 =D4=
=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF=20
=DE=C5=D2=C5=DA Arthur, =C9=CC=C9 Qt3 =CE=C5 =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=D5=C5=D4=
 XRender ?


> =EE=C5 =D0=CF=CE=C9=CD=C1=C0, =DE=D4=CF =D4=C1=CB=CF=C5 "qt-based =C2=C5=
=DA Arthur".
=D1 =D4=CF=D6=C5.