From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:47 +0500 (SAMST) From: Vlad Harchev X-Sender: hvv@localhost.localdomain To: sisyphus@altlinux.ru Subject: Re: [sisyphus] Re: Gnome In-Reply-To: <20020929144845.GA3067@mhz.mikhail.zabaluev.name> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: sisyphus-admin@altlinux.ru Errors-To: sisyphus-admin@altlinux.ru X-BeenThere: sisyphus@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sisyphus@altlinux.ru List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Archived-At: List-Archive: On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Mikhail Zabaluev wrote: > Hello Alexey, >=20 > On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 08:28:10PM +0700, Alexey Morozov wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 02:13:07PM +0500, Vlad Harchev wrote: > > > > =F7=C5=D4=CB=C1 1.0.x =C5=DD=C5 =C4=CF=D3=D4=C1=D4=CF=DE=CE=CF =D0= =D2=C9=CC=C9=DE=CE=C1=D1. =F7=D0=D2=CF=DE=C5=CD, =D7=C9=CE=D9 =E4=D6=CF=CE= =C1 =E8=C1=D2=D0=C5=D2=C1 > > > > (=CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=CA, =CB=D3=D4=C1=D4=C9, =C9 =D1=D7=CC=D1=C5=D4= =D3=D1 =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2=CF=CD =D3=CF=C6=C9=DB=C1, =C9 =C8=CF=D2=CF=DB=C5=C7= =CF, =C9 =D0=CC=CF=C8=CF=C7=CF > > > > :-)) =D7 =D0=D2=CF=C3=C5=D3=D3=C5 =CE=C5=CD=CE=CF=C7=CF. =EE=D5, = =D4=CF =C5=D3=D4=D8, =CF=CE, =CB=CF=CE=C5=DE=CE=CF, =D3=C1=CE=CB=C3=C9=CF= =CE=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=CC, =CB=C1=CB > > > > =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2 =C9 =D7=D3=C5 =D4=C1=CB=CF=C5 =D0=CF=C4=CF=C2=CE=CF= =C5 =D5=D3=C5=DE=C5=CE=C9=C5 =C6=D5=CE=CB=C3=C9=CF=CE=C1=CC=D8=CE=CF=D3=D4= =C9, =CE=CF =C7=CC=C1=D7=CE=D9=CD =D0=CF=C2=CF=D2=CE=C9=CB=CF=CD > > > > "Easy-to-use", =D3=D5=C4=D1 =D0=CF =D3=CF=C6=C9=DB=C5=D7=CF=CD=D5 = =D3=D0=C9=D3=CB=D5, =D1=D7=CC=D1=C5=D4=D3=D1 =CE=C5=CB=D4=CF Michael Toomim= , > > > =EE=D5 =D7=D2=CF=C4=C5 =CB=C1=CB-=D4=CF =D2=C1=DA =D1 =CE=C1=C8=CF= =C4=C9=CC =D4=CF =D0=C9=D3=D8=CD=CF =E4=D6=CF=CE=C1 =E8=C1=D2=D0=C5=D2=C1, = =C7=C4=C5 =C2=D9=CC=CF =C1=CE=CF=CE=D3=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=CE=CF > > > =D5=D3=C5=DE=C5=CE=C9=C5 =C7=C9=C2=CB=CF=D3=D4=C9 =D3=C1=D7=C6=C9=DB= =C1 - =D5 =CE=C5=C7=CF =C2=D9=CC =D3=CD=D9=D3=CC =D0=D2=C9=CD=C5=D2=CE=CF = =D4=C1=CB=CF=CA: "=D3=C5=CC =D1, =D0=CF=C4=D5=CD=C1=CC,=20 > > > =C9 =D2=C5=DB=C9=CC =DE=D4=CF =C7=C9=C2=CB=CF=D3=D4=D8 =C4=C5=CA=D3= =D4=D7=C9=D4=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF =CE=C5 =CE=D5=D6=CE=C1, =C9 =D7=D9=CB=C9=CE=D5= =CC =D7=D3=C5 =CE=C1=C6=C9=C7". =F4=CF =C5=D3=D4=D8 > > > =D0=C1=D4=DE =CF=CE =C4=C5=CC=C1=CC =D3=C1=CD. > > =E4=C1 =CE=C5=D4, =D1 =D4=CF=D6=C5 =D7=D3=C5 =DC=D4=C9 =D0=C9=D3=D8=CD= =C1 =DE=C9=D4=C1=CC. =F0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF, =DC-=DC-=DC, =D3=C4=C1=C5=D4=D3=D1= =CD=CE=C5, =DE=D4=CF =C5=C7=CF > > =D0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF =C4=CF=D3=D4=C1=CC =D7=C5=D3=D8 =DC=D4=CF=D4 =C4=C5= =D7=C5=CC=CF=D0=CD=C5=CE=D4. =EE=D5, =CB=C1=CB =DC=D4=CF =D3=CC=D5=DE=C9=CC= =CF=D3=D8 =D3 Graham'=CF=CD > > Roff'=CF=CD... =F4=CF =C5=D3=D4=D8, =D7=CD=C5=D3=D4=CF =D2=C5=DB=C5=CE= =C9=D1 =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=D9 =CF=CE =D2=C5=DB=C9=CC "=D2=C5=DB=C5=CE=C9= =C5 =CE=C1 > > =D0=CF-=C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=CF=CD=D5". >=20 > =FC=D4=CF, =CB=D3=D4=C1=D4=C9, =CF=D4=D2=C1=D6=C1=C5=D4 =C5=DD=A3 =CF=C4= =CE=D5 =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=D5 =D2=C1=DA=D7=C5=D3=C9=D3=D4=D9=C8 =CE=C1=D3= =D4=D2=CF=C5=CB: > =D0=CF=C4=C4=C5=D2=D6=C9=D7=C1=D4=D8 =C9 =D0=D2=CF=C4=CF=CC=D6=C1=D4=D8 = =D2=C1=DA=D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CB=D5 =D3=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7=C9=D4=D3=D1 =D7=D3=A3 =D4= =D2=D5=C4=CE=C5=C5 =C9 =D4=D2=D5=C4=CE=C5=C5.=20 > =F7=D3=A3 =C2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C5 =D2=C1=D0=CF=D2=D4=D5=C5=D4=D3=D1 =CF=DB=C9= =C2=CF=CB, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=C5, =DE=D4=CF=C2=D9 =C9=C8 "=D0=CF=D4=D2=CF= =C7=C1=D4=D8", =D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C0=D4 > =D7=CF=D3=D3=CF=DA=C4=C1=CE=C9=D1 =CE=C5=CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=CF=CA =CB=CF=CE= =C6=C9=C7=D5=D2=C1=C3=C9=C9, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=C1=D1 =D3=C1=CD=C1 =CD=CF=C7= =CC=C1 =C2=D9=D4=D8 =D0=CF=CC=D5=DE=C5=CE=C1 > =D7 =D2=C5=DA=D5=CC=D8=D4=C1=D4=C5 =CF=DB=C9=C2=CB=C9. =EE=D5 =C8=CF=D2=CF=DB=C9=C5 =D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=CD=D9 =D0=C9=D3=C1=D4= =D8 =D7=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5 =CE=C5=CC=C5=C7=CB=CF. > >=20 > > > > =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=CA =D3=C5=CA=DE=C1=D3 =C2=CF=C4=C1=C5=D4=D3=D1 = =D3 =D2=C1=DA=DF=D1=D2=C5=CE=CE=D9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC= =D1=CD=C9 =C9 "=C8=C1=CB=C5=D2=C1=CD=C9" > > > > =D3=CF=C6=C9=DB=C1 (=CE-=D2, =D3 =E4=DC=CE=C9=DC=CC=C5=CD =F0=C6=C1= =CA=C6=C6=C5=D2=CF=CD (Daniel Pfeiffer), =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=C5 =D4=D2=C5=C2= =D5=C0=D4 > > > > viewports =CF=C2=D2=C1=D4=CE=CF. =ED=CF=D6=C5=D4=C5 =D0=CF=DE=C9=D4= =C1=D4=D8, =C4=CF=D7=CF=CC=D8=CE=CF =D0=CF=D5=DE=C9=D4=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF. 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Best regards, -Vlad