From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Message-ID: <45499959.6010703@stc.donpac.ru> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:08:09 +0300 From: Eugene Prokopiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040808 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list References: <20061031223029.GA4360@lks.home> <20061101061121.GA20688@ender.nbrkomi.ru> <200611011042.19869.led@ukr-fin.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <200611011042.19869.led@ukr-fin.com.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Nov 2 10:08:01 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9899 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 107,45499951220032131421309 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, Received*Postfix+with, 0.01000, References*mail.gmail.com, 0.01000, С, 0.01000, С, 0.01000, To*ALT+Linux, 0.01000, Content-Type*text+plain, 0.01000, User-Agent*ru-RU+rv, 0.01000, Received*ESMTP, 0.01000, Content-Transfer-Encoding*8bit, 0.01000, с, 0.01000, To*Linux+Sisyphus, 0.01000, Received*lists.altlinux.org+Thu, 0.01000, User-Agent*X11+U, 0.01000, это, 0.01000, ничего, 0.01000, To*sisyphus, 0.01000, To*Sisyphus, 0.01000, что, 0.01000, User-Agent*U, 0.01000, Евгений, 0.01000, Content-Type*plain, 0.01000, Received*lists.altlinux.org, 0.01000, User-Agent*1.7.2, 0.01000, Content-Type*plain+charset, 0.01000, From*Prokopiev, 0.01000, To*discussion+list, 0.01000, Received*by+ats-manager.stc.donpac.ru, 0.01000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sisyphus] i586 to x86_64 X-BeenThere: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:08:04 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: >>>>>>>=FA=C1=DE=C5=CD =D0=C5=D2=C5=C8=CF=C4? 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