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On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:36:50 +0300 =D0=A8=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=86=D0=B5=D0=B2 =D0=
=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B9 wrote:
> 24.08.2018 15:05, Mikhail Efremov =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
> > Hello! =20
>=20
> =D0=98 =D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BC =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B6=D0=B5.
>=20
> > =D0=92 =D0=A1=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=84 =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE (=
=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B3=
=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=8F) =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=
=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B9 Xfce. =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=BE
> > development versions, =D1=82=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=
=81=D0=BB=D0=B5 =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B0 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=
=B5=D1=82 Xfce-4.14.
> > =D0=9E=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8F =D1=86=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=
=8C =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B0 - =
=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4 =D0=BD=D0=B0 GTK+3, =D1=87=D1=82=
=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=B5=D1=82
> > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=8F: =D0=
=BF=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=
=B0=D0=BC=D1=8F=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1=89=D1=83=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE =D0=
=B2=D1=8B=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=BE. =D0=A2=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=
=85 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=BD=D0=B5
> > =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BB, =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =
=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=84=D1=80=D1=8B =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=
=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D1=83. =20
>=20
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=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=
=BB=D0=B8=D0=B2 =D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB?
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=BB=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 KDE5 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=88=
=D1=91=D0=BB =D0=BD=D0=B0 XFCE.
> =D0=9D=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=
=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=
=8C =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =
=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B5=D1=89=D1=91 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7.

=D0=9F=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=89=D1=83=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC =D1=80=
=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0 =D0=B2 2, =D0=B0 =D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B8 =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BB=
=D1=8C=D1=88=D0=B5. =D0=92=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D1=8F =D0=
=BC=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=83 =D0=BE=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=
=8F,
=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D1=81=
=D0=B5-=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=81=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=
=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BB.

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=BC, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D1=81=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=
=83 =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B2 =D0=B3=D0=
=BB=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0 - =D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D0=BC=
=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8E
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=88=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=D1=8E=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F. =D0=95=D1=
=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=
=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=8F=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=
=B5=D1=80=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82, =D1=82=D0=BE
> > =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=
=BD =D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=B5=
=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=88=D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F. =20
>=20
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=82=D1=8C =D0=B3=D1=83=D0=B4 ...

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=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B7=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BB=D1=83 xfce =D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=B0=
=D1=82=D1=87=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3=D0=B8=D1=85 =D0=B4=D0=B8=
=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B1=D1=83=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=85, =D0=BD=
=D0=BE =D1=8F
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=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=B2 =D1=81=
=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=BC GTK. =D0=92 =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B8=D1=85 =D0=BF=
=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=85 =D1=8F =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B2=
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=D1=80=D0=B0, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE. =D0=90 =D0=B2 =D0=
=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 - =D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=
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=B8=D0=BB=D0=BB=D1=83 =D0=B8
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=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C.

> P.S.: =D0=B0 =D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=
=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B3=D1=83=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=
=8B=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0 XFCE?
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=BE =D1=83=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8E =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=
=BF=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=
=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=B2=D0=B0 =D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0:
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=D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=83=D1=80=D1=8B.

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=B2=D0=BA=D0=BB=D1=8E=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8B =D1=83
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=D1=8C =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE.

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=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0
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=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C.

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WBR, Mikhail Efremov