From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:03:25 +0400 From: Mikhail Efremov To: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org Message-ID: <20140815190325.01b4eb82@sem.office.altlinux.ru> In-Reply-To: References: <20140815115203.GB17547@mw.mithraen.ru> <20140815124937.GQ9189@imap.altlinux.org> <117344820.vRu3Q6o2rb@summoner.malta.altlinux.ru> Organization: ALT Linux X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-alt-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sisyphus] [JT] systemd X-BeenThere: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:03:26 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:00:15 +0400 Alexey Shabalin wrote: > 15 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0 2014 =D0=B3., 17:53 =D0=BF= =D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C Sergey V= Turchin > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On Friday 15 August 2014 16:49:37 Michael Shigorin wrote: > > > > [...] > >> =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=83=D1=8E=D1=81=D1=8C E =D0=B8 =D0=B2= =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=82 =D1=88=D0=BB=D1=8F= =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=B3=D0=BD=D0=BE= =D0=BC=D0=B0 =D1=81 =D1=88=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5= =D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 > >> kde4 =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=B2=D1=8B= =D0=BA=D1=80=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=80=D1=83=D0=BB= =D1=8C. :) (=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8F =D0=BF=D1=80= =D0=BE WM) > > =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D0=B1=D1=8B, =D0=BF= =D1=80=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=B7=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8C kde? 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