From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on sa.local.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_PASS,T_FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=JOAaEFxB5BuyqJrhFWJG+zpuBaAkbLrohqUvFcEPCEc=; b=B3n589Mu0GGV7oh+4yQDZJpEECmssV05BAN7dr646Eqa29fcqJ6QlikDCXBeigxdrQ Bqyrlk/IgVRBFDxuG/uz/vS0XNv6liszIaK3LCaS8hsIi6ShkqYlaEIJZdAAY1Je53kq EADa2V6nfb1K42B2FtjU9L9svSFCKiFzyUWun1CinK3t+KatRtTdujkP503loJKVcCOs Qk+praqeXRjeYS4agTfRV/ydcASpYDO309Ed+egw+oyVVb0+m8EHIWgwV0x9ExszZTSb 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