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On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:21:04 +0300 Eugene Prokopiev wrote:
> > =D0=94=D0=BB=D1=8F =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=8B NetworkManager'=
=D0=B0 =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7 regular-icewm =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=
=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81
> > > use/systemd.
> >
> > =D0=90 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 mike@? :=
-)
> > =D0=9B=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=
=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=
=83=D1=88=D0=B8=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=BF =D1=82=D0=
=B5=D1=85=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=
=D0=B9
> > =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=
=82=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=
=8E  =D0=BA systemd/sysV, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =
=D0=BC=D1=8B =D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=81=D1=8F
> > =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=
=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=
=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8.
> >
>=20
> =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=
=B0-=D1=82=D0=BE sem@ =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=
=B0=D0=BB =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=
=82=D1=8C =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=
=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C
> NetworkManager =D1=81 sysV. =D0=9F=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=8B =D0=B7=D0=B0=
=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8B?

=D0=A3 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=D0=B1=D0=BE=
=D1=80=D0=BA=D0=B0 NM =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=
=80=D0=B6=D0=BA=D0=B8 systemd, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9 =
=D1=8F =D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=83=D1=8E=D1=81=D1=8C
(http://ftp.altlinux.org/pub/people/sem/NM_ck).
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=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 systemd/SysV =D0=B2 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=
=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=BC=D0=B5 =D0=B2 NM =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=
=BD=D0=BE, =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC=20
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BA=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D0=B5=D1=80=
=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=B0,=
 =D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=8F =D1=80=D0=B5=
=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=81=
=D1=81=D0=B0.
=D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =
=D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=B0=
=D0=BB, =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B8 =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D0=
=B0 =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B =D0=
=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5
=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B8=D1=82.
=D0=91=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B5=D0=BA=
=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BD=
=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B3=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82 =D0=BD=
=D0=B0=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C systemd-logind =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=
=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C
=D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 systemd. =D0=9B=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=
=84=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BA=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=9E=D0=BD =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=
=B8 =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B2=D0=B7=D0=B3=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=
=B4=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B3=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82 =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=
=BB=D0=B5=D0=B5
=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC =D0=B8 =D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BA=
=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC, =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B5=
=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=
=8B=D0=B9 ConsoleKit =D0=B8 =D1=8F =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB =D0=B1=D1=8B
=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=82=
=D0=B8=D0=B2 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=
=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 systemd.
=D0=9D=D0=BE =D1=80=D1=83=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=
=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=
=B4=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BB=D0=B8 :(.

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WBR, Mikhail Efremov