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On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:03:21 +0600 Ildar Mulyukov wrote:
> 	=D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=85=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB,
> =D1=8F =D1=82=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BB, =D1=87=D1=
=82=D0=BE =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=
=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=81=D1=80=D0=B0=
=D0=B7=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=88=D1=91=D0=BB, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=
=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE.
> (=D0=A1=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81 =D0=BC=D1=8B =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=81=D1=
=83=D0=B6=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC SysV-=D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=82=
 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=B8 ALT-=D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=
=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F NM =D1=81 =20
> =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 etcnet):
>=20
>=20
> On 31.05.2012 04:48:19, Mikhail Efremov wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 May 2012 01:07:09 +0600 Ildar Mulyukov wrote:
> > > 	=D0=94=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C,
> > > SysV-=D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=82 NM =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BB=
=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B5, =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=
=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C/=D0=BE=
=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=
=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81. =D0=92
> > > =D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8, =D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=BC =D1=82=D1=83=D1=88=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=
=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=8B =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4 =D0=B7=
=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC.
> >=20
> > =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB warkaround =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=81=D0=
=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B9 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=
=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=
=BA etcnet, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D1=8F
> > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=BD=D1=8E.
>=20
> =D0=9D=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=
=BD=D0=B0 =D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=83=D1=8E=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=B5:
> etcnet	|	NM
> ONBOOT=3Dyes --> autoconnect=3Dtrue
> ONBOOT=3Dno --> autoconnect=3Dfalse
>=20
> =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE?
> =D0=AF =D1=83=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BB ONBOOT=3Dyes, =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=
=BB=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE NM =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=
=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C "System=
 eth0" =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =20
> =D0=B2=D1=82=D1=8B=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B5=
=D0=BB=D1=8F.

ONBOOT =D1=82=D1=83=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC=
, =D1=8F =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=83 DISABLED/NM_CONTROLLED.
=D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81 =D1=83=
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=BB=D1=81=D1=8F NM, =D1=82=D0=BE =D0=
=B2 options =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C
DISABLED=3Dyes
NM_CONTROLLED=3Dyes
=D0=A2=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 etcnet =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=
=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=8B=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=83=D0=BF=D1=80=
=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=
=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BC.

> > > =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8F=D0=BB, =D0=B2
> > > =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D1=
=8E=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BC systemd-=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B5 =
=D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=84=D1=83=D0=BD=D0=BA=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=BE=D0=BD=
=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82. =D0=92=
 =D0=B8=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B5,
> > > =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D1=83=D0=BC, =D0=BD=
=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B1=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=85=D0=B0 =D0=B2 resolv.=
conf (DNS-=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8B =D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=B8=D0=
=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D0=B0
> > > =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8F).
> >=20
> > =D0=A2=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=
=B5 =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B2 /=
etc/net/ifaces =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=
=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =20
> > =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B5
> > =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=8B =D1=83=D0=
=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=8E=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F NM, =D0=B0 =D0=BA=
=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B5 etcnet.
>=20
> =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5, =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=
=83 =D0=92=D0=B0=D1=81 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=BD eth=
0. =D0=94=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B0=D0=B4=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=81=D1=8C, =D1=
=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7 System =20
> eth0.

=D0=A3 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F eth0 =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5 =
=D0=B2 =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=
=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F NM. =D0=9E=D0=BD =
=D1=80=D1=83=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=82 =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE wlan0.
=D0=98 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC-=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8 System wlan0, =D0=BF=D1=
=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=B8=D0=B7 etcn=
et.

> > > =D0=9C=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=
=D0=BE =D1=81 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=
=D1=82=D1=8C? =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B7=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=8E,=
 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE systemctl disable
> > > network.service =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=
=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=B8=D0=
=B4=D0=B5=D0=B5=D0=B9.
>=20
> =D0=9E=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=87=D0=B0=D1=8E =D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BC =D1=81=D0=
=B5=D0=B1=D0=B5. =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=
=D1=82=D0=BE "=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8F =D0=B8=
=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=8F", =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=
=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=8F =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =20
> =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5.
>=20
> > =D0=AF =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=
=82=D0=B0=D1=89=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=B2 =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=
=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=
=82=D1=8B =D0=B8 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B7=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B8=D1=
=85 =D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5
> > systemd. =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D1=80=D1=83=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5=
 =D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BB=D0=B8.
>=20
> =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 =D0=
=B4=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=83=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=
=B8=D0=B8?

=D0=9F=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =
=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=85 =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=
=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B2 DISABLED/NM_CONTROLLED =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=
=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE. =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=BE
=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83.

> =D0=92=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D1=81 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=
=B8=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=
=81=D1=82=D1=83=D0=BF=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 NM-=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=84=D0=B8=
=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B9, =D0=BE=D1=82 etcnet-=D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=
=BD=D0=B0 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =20
> =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F. =D0=
=A2=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE etcnet, =D0=BB=D0=B8=
=D0=B1=D0=BE NM.
> =D0=9B=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C.

=D0=92=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=
=D0=BE=D1=85=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=
=D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B5=
=D0=B4=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 =
NM =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C
=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE. =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B8 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D1=
=82=D1=83=D1=82 =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D1=
=87=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=
=B5=D0=BA etcnet? =D0=9E=D0=BD =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD =D1=85=D0=BE=
=D1=82=D1=8F =D0=B1=D1=8B
=D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B=
 =D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C NM_CONTROLLED. =D0=94=D0=B0 =D0=B8 =
=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=
=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=BA =D0=B8=D0=B7
etcnet =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=83=D0=B4=
=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE.

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WBR, Mikhail Efremov