From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:04:18 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list Message-ID: <20070831170418.GA5381@osdn.org.ua> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list References: <46B7057A.3020208@rambler.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: [sisyphus] =?koi8-r?b?W0pUXSB4bW1zOiDT19Hdxc7OwdEgy8/Sz9fBIMbP?= =?koi8-r?b?0sXXwSA7LVA=?= X-BeenThere: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shigorin@gmail.com, ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:04:19 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 03:38:40PM +0000, I wrote: > Пока я не вижу достойной замены xmms, выноса не допущу! :] Вот и не я один такой старомодный насчёт всяких audacious: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/116761 > It handles SIGTERM gracefully. That's not broken. SIGTERM is not Ok, I confused it with SIGINT. But let me give you a short walk-trough from the perspective of a potential user: --- $ audacious /data - a gray window appears, instead of the player. Ookay, let's wait few seconds for the app to initialize. Waiting 10 seconds. 20. 30. XMMS would be playing already (this is measured!). - Okay, examining what this stupid window is good for. Propably for error messages, but there is nothing, and the window has no title. - I change to the terminal and try to kill with with Ctrl-C. I cannot, because this window steals the WM focus every second. First WTF. Well, I manage to press Ctrl-C quickly. It says it received SIGINT and is going to terminate. Seems to have stoped stealing the focus. Great, but... - ... it does not stop scanning. The stupid window is still there and the app does not die. Second WTF. - Well, now it steals focus every 10-20 seconds, while I am typing this text. Third WTF. - Enough, doing "killall audacious". The thing still does not die. Any my harddisks still suffers. Fourth WTF. - "killall -9 audacious" Thanks, worked. Enough of this crap. --- So, that's it. The user experience is a disaster, like it or not. It shows childhood diseases I have not expected in a serious application for daily use, not even talking about replacement for the "good old XMMS". -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/