From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:44:16 +0400 From: Alexey Tourbin To: ALT Linux Sisyphus mailing list Message-ID: <20060614234416.GQ25291@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus mailing list References: <20060614150701.GH7887@grep.po.cs.msu.su> <20060614155336.GO25291@localhost.localdomain> <20060614214447.GB8552@basalt.office.altlinux.org> <20060614223842.GP25291@localhost.localdomain> <20060614225541.GB9860@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4ECF1u7dKBoUGhe3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060614225541.GB9860@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [sisyphus] =?koi8-r?b?89TBwsnM2M7ZyiDzydrJxg==?= X-BeenThere: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:43:34 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --4ECF1u7dKBoUGhe3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:55:41AM +0400, Dmitry V. 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