From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:05:34 +0700 From: Alexey Morozov To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list Subject: Re: [sisyphus] =?koi8-r?B?5szcys0gySDXz9DS?= =?koi8-r?B?z9PZINDSzw==?= alternatives Message-ID: <20040930060534.GA22125@pyro.hopawar.private.net> References: <20040910030202.GA12950@pyro.hopawar.private.net> <20040920115906.GA29447@basalt.office.altlinux.org> <20040920134822.GA5829@pyro.hopawar.private.net> <20040921072843.GE27714@basalt.office.altlinux.org> <20040928172102.GA17327@pyro.hopawar.private.net> <20040929102804.GA1678@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040929102804.GA1678@basalt.office.altlinux.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: sisyphus@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:05:35 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:28:04PM +0400, Stanislav Ievlev wrote: > > =ED=C5=CE=D1 =DC=D4=C1 =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=C1 =D5=D6=C5 =CE=C5 =C2=C5= =D3=D0=CF=CB=CF=C9=D4. =EE=C1=C4=C5=C0=D3=D8, =CE=C1=C4=CF=CC=C7=CF. > =EE=D5 =D4=CF=C7=C4=C1 =C9 =CE=C5 =CE=C1=C4=CF =CE=C9=CB=CF=C7=CF =D7=D7= =CF=C4=C9=D4=D8 =D7 =DA=C1=C2=CC=D5=D6=C4=C5=CE=C9=C5. =F5=D6=C5 =CE=C5 =D7=D7=CF=D6=D5. =EB=D2=C9=CB=C9 =D0=D2=C5=CB=D2=C1=D4=C9= =CC=C9=D3=D8 =D0=CF=D3=CC=C5 =D0=C5=D2=D7=CF=C7=CF "=C2=D2=C5=C4=C1" :-). > > 1. =C4=CF=D0=D5=D3=CB=C1=C5=D4=D3=D1 =D2=D5=DE=CE=CF=C5 =D0=C5=D2=C5=D3= =D4=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=C5 slave'=C1 =CE=C5=DA=C1=D7=C9=D3=C9=CD=CF =CF=D4 ma= ster'=C1. > > =F0=CF-=CD=CF=C5=CD=D5, =DC=D4=CF =C4=CF=D7=CF=CC=D8=CE=CF =CF=D0=C1=D3= =CE=C1=D1 =D3 =D4=CF=DE=CB=C9 =DA=D2=C5=CE=C9=D1 =D0=D2=C5=C4=D3=CB=C1=DA= =D5=C5=CD=CF=D3=D4=C9 =D3=C9=D3=D4=C5=CD=D9 > > =D0=D2=C1=CB=D4=C9=CB=C1. =F3=C4=C5=CC=C1=CE=CF =CC=C9 =DC=D4=CF =CE=C1= =D2=CF=DE=CE=CF (=D3=D5=C4=D1 =D0=CF =CF=D0=C9=D3=C1=CE=C9=C0 =CE=C1 =D3=C1= =CA=D4=C5 - =C4=C1), > > =C9 =CB=C1=CB=CF=D7=D9 pros =D4=C1=CB=CF=C7=CF =D2=C5=DB=C5=CE=C9=D1 > =F3=D0=CF=D2=CE=D9=CA =D7=CF=D0=D2=CF=D3, =D1 =CE=C9=CB=C1=CB=CF=CA =CF= =D0=C1=D3=CE=CF=D3=D4=C9 =D7 =DC=D4=CF=CD =CE=C5 =D7=C9=D6=D5. =EB=CF=C7=C4=C1 =C4=CF=CB=D5=CD=C5=CE=D4=C1=C3=C9=D1 =CF=CB=C1=DA=D9=D7=C1= =C5=D4=D3=D1 =CF=D4=CF=D2=D7=C1=CE=CE=CF=CA =CF=D4 =C2=C9=CE=C1=D2=CE=C9=CB= =C1 - =DC=D4=CF =D0=CF=CC-=C2=C5=C4=D9. =EE=D5, =D7=D9=D1=D3=CE=C9=D4=D3=D1, =DE=D4=CF gcc (/usr/bin/gcc) =CE=C5 = =D0=CF=C4=C4=C5=D2=D6=C9=D7=C1=C5=D4 =D4=C5=C8 =CB=CC=C0=DE=C5=CA, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9=C5 =CF=D0=C9=D3=C1=CE=D9 =D7 man gcc, =C9=CC=C9 =DE=D4= =CF-=CE=C9=C2=D5=C4=D8 =D7 =DC=D4=CF=CD =D2=CF=C4=C5 - =CE=C5 =D0=D2=CF=C2= =CC=C5=CD=C1. =E1 =D7=CF=D4 =C5=D3=CC=C9 =CB=CF=CD=D0=C9=CC=D1=D4=CF=D2=CE=D9=CA =C2=DC= =CB=C5=CE=C4 =CF=CB=C1=D6=C5=D4=D3=D1 =CF=D4=CF=D2=D7=C1=CE=CE=D9=CD =CF=D4= =C6=D2=CF=CE=D4=C5=CE=C4=C1 - =C2=D5=C4=C5=D4 =CF=C2=C9=C4=CE=C5=C5. =E4=C1, =D1 =D0=CF=CE=C9=CD=C1=C0, =DE=D4=CF =C1=C4= =CD=C9=CE=C9=D3=D4=D2=C1=D4=CF=D2 =D3=C1=CD =D3=C5=C2=C5 =DA=CC=CF=C2=CE=D9= =CA =C2=D5=D2=C1=D4=C9=CE=C1, =CE=C1=CB=CF=CE=C6=C9=C7=D5=D2=D1=CC =DE=C5=D2=D4=C9-=DE=D4=CF, =CE=CF =D3 = =D4=C5=CD =D6=C5 =D5=D3=D0=C5=C8=CF=CD =CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =CF=D4=CB=C1=DA=C1= =D4=D8=D3=D1 =CF=D4 =CB=CF=CE=D4=D2=CF=CC=D1 =DA=C1=D7=C9=D3=C9=CD=CF=D3=D4=C5=CA =D7 rpm. =F4=C5=CB=D5=DD=C1=D1 =C9=CD= =D0=CC=C5=CD=C5=CE=D4=C1=C3=C9=D1 _=D0=CF=CF=DD=D2=D1=C5=D4_ (=C1 =CE=C5 = =D0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF =C4=C5=CC=C1=C5=D4 =D7=CF=DA=CD=CF=D6=CE=CF=CA) bad practices. > > 1a. =FA=C1=DE=C5=CD =CE=C1 =D0=D2=C1=CB=D4=C9=CB=C5 =CE=D5=D6=CE=D9 =CD= =CE=CF=C7=CF=D5=D2=CF=D7=CE=C5=D7=D9=C5 slave'=D9? > =F7=CF=DA=CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =C9 =CE=C5 =D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C0=D4=D3=D1, =C8=CF= =D4=D1 =CE=C9=DE=D4=CF =CE=C5 =CD=C5=DB=C1=C5=D4 =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF= =D7=C1=D4=D8 =CE=C1=D0=D2=C9=CD=C5=D2 =C4=CC=D1 > =CB=CF=CD=D0=C9=CC=D1=D4=CF=D2=CF=D7: > gcc->=CB=CF=CE=CB=D2=C5=D4=CE=D9=CA =CB=CF=CD=D0=C9=CC=D1=D4=CF=D2->=C5= =C7=CF =C4=CF=CB=D5=CD=C5=CE=D4=C1=C3=C9=D1. =F0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF =C1=D2=C8= =C9=D4=C5=CB=D4=D5=D2=C1 =D0=CF=DA=D7=CF=CC=D1=C5=D4 > =C9=CD=C5=D4=D8 =C9=C8 =C2=C5=DA =CB=C1=CB=C9=C8-=CC=C9=C2=CF =CE=C1=CB= =CC=C1=C4=CE=D9=C8 =D2=C1=D3=C8=CF=C4=CF=D7. 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