From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <5740@mail.ru> From: info <5740@mail.ru> To: sisyphus@altlinux.ru Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:58:07 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_i2r4//WMGye7kFX" Message-Id: <200312191158.10495.5740@mail.ru> X-Spam: Not detected Subject: [sisyphus] =?windows-1251?b?xOv/IPHi5eTl7ej/IPHh7vD56Oru4g==?= ALSA, KDE =?windows-1251?q?=E8_GNOME=3A_Fwd=3A_Re=3A_=5BGnomeMeet?= =?windows-1251?q?ing-list=5D_Gnomemeeting_on_notebooks_under?= KDE X-BeenThere: sisyphus@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: sisyphus@altlinux.ru List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:58:11 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: --Boundary-00=_i2r4//WMGye7kFX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline xO7r4+7lIO7h8fPm5OXt6OUg8SDs4Ont8uXp7eXw7uwgZ25vbWVtZWV0aW5nIO/w7uHr5ez7LCDq 4OogCuzu5u3uIOjx7+7r/Ofu4uDy/CDw4Oft7uPuIPDu5OAg7PPr/PLo7OXk6Ont++Ug7+vl6eXw +ywg6Ozl/yDiIAry8OXlIO7m6OTg/vno6SDi++fu4uAg4+3u7OXs5eXy6O3jLCDoIO3lIOHu//L8 8f8sIPfy7iDv8OggCu7y4uXy5SDt4CDi++fu4iD98u7yIOPt7uzl7Ojo8ujt4yDi4Owg8erg5uXy IC9kZXYvZHNwIGJ1c3kgKOgsIArx7u7y4uXy8fLi5e3t7iwg4iDi6OTl7uru7fTl8OXt9ujoIO3l IOHz5OXyIOfi8+rgKSwg5+Dq7u336Ovo8fwgCvLl7Cwg9/LuINHg7eTw4PEg7vLq4Ofg6/H/IOLx 8vDg6OLg8vwg4iDx4u7pIO/w7uTz6vIgCuLu5+zu5u3u8fLoIOTr/yDv8Ojt8+To8uXr/O3u6SDv 8Oju8fLg7e7i6ugg5PDz4+j1IODz5OjuLSDoIAri6OTl7u/w6Ovu5uXt6Okg7/DoIO7y4uXy5SDt 4CDi++fu4jsg4uzl8fLuIP3y7uPuIO7tIO/w5eTr4OPg5fIgCvHu5+Tg4uDy/CB2aXJ0dWFsIERN SVggQUxTQSBzb3VuZGNhcmQgLSD17vL/IPHg7CDm5SDoIArv8Ojn7eDl8vH/LCD38u4g7ejq7uPk 4CDxIO3l6SDt5SDw4OHu8uDrLiAg0uDq5uUg7u0g7/Dl5Ovg4+Dl8iAK5+Ds++rg8vwgYXJ0c2Qg KOgsIO3g5O4g5PPs4PL8LCBlc2Qg4iDj7e7s5Skg7eAg/fLzIOrg8PLzLgoKzvfl4ujk7e4g8uDq 5uUsIOIg/fLu6SDx4v/n6Cwg9/LuIOHz5OXyIO/u6+Xn7fvsIPPx8uDt4OLr6OLg8vwgCu/uIPPs 7uv34O3o/iDi8OXs/yDn4PH77+Dt6P8gYXJ0c2Qg7eUg4iA2MCDx5erz7eQsIOrg6iDx5en34PEs IArgIOzg6vHo7PPsIOIgMS0yIPHl6vPt5PssIOzu5uXyIOTg5uUg4iAwLgoKw+Xu8OPo6Qo= --Boundary-00=_i2r4//WMGye7kFX Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="forwarded message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Damien Sandras : Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Gnomemeeting on notebooks under KDE =46rom gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org Thu Dec 18 12: 30:51 2003 Return-path: Received: from [67.72.78.218] (port=3D49201 helo=3Dmail.gnome.org) by mx13.mail.ru with esmtp=20 id 1AWuUZ-000JMo-00 for 5740@mail.ru; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:30:47 +0300 Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1096918BBC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:31:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org Received: from seconix.com (seconix.com [213.193.144.104]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFFB180EB for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc182.it-optics.com (adsl-152-201.wanadoo.be [213.177.152.20= 1]) by seconix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDAA9EFF for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:31:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Gnomemeeting on notebooks under KDE =46rom: Damien Sandras To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200312171418.05677.5740@mail.ru> References: <200312161505.10430.5740@mail.ru> <200312162011.29933.5740@mail.ru> <1071595819.2699.8.camel@golgoth01> <200312171418.05677.5740@mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1071739742.849.20.camel@golgoth01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5=20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: GnomeMeeting mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:30:31 +0100 X-Spam: Not detected Status: R=20 X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: =20 X-KMail-SignatureState: =20 Le mer 17/12/2003 =E0 12:18, info a =E9crit : > Yes. Because it's a question of respect to my correspondent.=20 > Imagine, please - you call me, but can't hear me because my=20 > /dev/dsp is bisy... What you will think about me? > In another words, my decision to ansver your call means my=20 > decision to close my audio/video apps; and if I decided to set=20 > auto-answer, this means my agreement with auto-closing=20 > audio/video apps.=20 >=20 > So, this feature I speak about is only for automatize the=20 > actions that now you and I had to make by hands: when we see=20 > call and want to ansver, we must manually close sound/video=20 > applications in any vay. =20 >=20 > Of course, it must be a user-selected feature: somewhere in=20 > settings must be a radio-button with words "Automatically close=20 > all sound/video applications on incoming and outgoing calls".=20 >=20 That won't happen. Other maintainers would think I'm crazy to auto-kill other programs. That doesn't make sense. > And... Of course, the ideal way will be a possibility of shared=20 > usage /dev/dsp by gnomemeeting and players - maybe, with=20 > automatically reduced volume... But this is inpossible - or=20 > not? >=20 It will be possible the day where GNOME and KDE will both adopt a good sound daemon. Currently, the only possibility is to create a virtual DMIX ALSA soundcard (check their doc, I never tried), and to use that virtual soundcard as output for all programs. That will transparently work with all applications! > > > > I'm personnally using xmms, xine without artsd or esd, and > > when I have to answer an incoming call, I stop the sound > > playing. >=20 > I use xine, noatun and kscd. IMHO, noatun make better sound, and=20 > if you want, I am ready to prove it by experiment. I have one=20 > mp3 file (Tonino Carotone, Me en el cago del amor, 6M). When I=20 > listen it on xmms, I hear some speedup in the beginning of=20 > song; when I listen it on noatun, all is normally. (Of course,=20 > it is my personal mind...) >=20 > Noatun (and kscd) needs artsd. They automatically start artsd=20 > even if it wasn't start before. And even if I close noatun,=20 > artsd stay as daemon.=20 >=20 You can tell to artsd to bind to the virtual ALSA soundcard. > This means that if I start gnomemeeting (without artsd, of=20 > course), and then start noatun - gnomemeeting will not work on=20 > incoming call even if I close noatun. Because artsd will not=20 > stop with noatun, an /dev/dsp will bisy for gnomemeeting. > =20 There is an option in artsd to make it release the dsp soundcard when it is not used. > This is problem, and I don't know how to solve it - not only for=20 > me, but for my users who don't know what is "ps aux" and work=20 > only in GUI with OpenOffice. (I am admin in company with office=20 > decktops on Linuxes). =20 >=20 > > If you have video preview (what you are describing) enabled, > > but video transmission disabled, there will be no video > > transmission. Similarly, if you have video preview disabled, > > but video transmission is enabled, there will be a video > > transmission. You don't need to play with the preview. > > > > Do you understand what I mean? >=20 > YES!!! It's my mistake: I thought that I must to switch on=20 > camera, but it is only preview... >=20 > George >=20 > _______________________________________________ > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list =2D-=20 _ Damien Sandras (o- =20 //\ It-Optics s.a. v_/_ GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/ FOSDEM 2004: http://www.fosdem.org H.323 phone: callto:ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com _______________________________________________ GnomeMeeting-list mailing list GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list --Boundary-00=_i2r4//WMGye7kFX--