From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:25:28 +0600 From: Ildar Mulyukov To: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org In-Reply-To: <9d5146970809050217v36ced426o70603ff95846c09c@mail.gmail.com> (from afanasovdmitry@gmail.com on Fri Sep 5 15:17:01 2008) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.25 Message-Id: <1220610328.15808.35@ildar.innovations.kz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Drweb-SpamState: no X-Drweb-SpamScore: -110 Subject: Re: [sisyphus] NM vs etcnet X-BeenThere: sisyphus@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Sisyphus discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:26:05 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 05.09.2008 15:17:01, Dmitry Afanasov wrote: > 05.09.08, Ildar Mulyukov =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): > > On 05.09.2008 12:31:45, Dmitry Afanasov wrote: > > > > > 05.09.08, Ildar Mulyukov =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1= ): > > > > On 05.09.2008 01:51:23, Dmitry Afanasov wrote: > > > > > =C4=CF=D0=C9=CC=C9=D4=D8 etcnet+gui =C4=CF =D5=D2=CF=D7=CE=D1 NM,= =C7=C4=C5 =DC=D4=CF =D5=C4=CF=C2=CE=CF (wifi), =C9 =20 > =CF=D3=D4=C1=D7=C9=D4=D8 NM > > > > > =D2=C1=DA=D7=C5 =DE=D4=CF =C4=CC=D1 =DC=CB=D3=D0=C5=D2=C9=CD=C5= =CE=D4=C1=D4=CF=D2=CF=D7. > > > > =E1 =C5=DD=A3 =D7=D7=D1=DA=C1=CC=C9=D3=D8 =DC=D4=CF =D3=C4=C5=CC= =C1=D4=D8... =CC=C5=C7=CB=CF=CD=D9=D3=CC=C5=CE=CE=CF. (=E2=C5=DA =CF=C2=C9= =C4, =D1 =CE=C5 > > =C9=DA=C4=C5=D7=C1=C0=D3=D8) > > > =D2=C1=DA=D7=C5 =CC=C0=C2=CF=C5 =CD=CE=C5=CE=C9=C5 =C6=D5=CE=CB=C3=C9= =CF=CE=C1=CC=D5 =DA=C4=C5=D3=D8 =D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C5=D4 =D4=C5=D0=C5=D2=D8 =20 > =CE=C5=D0=CF=D3=D2=C5=C4=D3=D4=D7=C5=CE=CE=CF=CA > > > =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=D9 =D3 =CE=C9=CD? > > =EE=D5... =DC=D4=CF... =CB=C1=CB =C2=D9... =F7=D9 =D3=CB=C1=DA=C1=CC= =C9 =C6=D2=C1=DA=D5 "=C4=CF=D0=C9=CC=C9=D4=D8 etcnet+gui =C4=CF =20 > =D5=D2=CF=D7=CE=D1 NM", > > =D0=D2=C9 =DC=D4=CF=CD =C4=C1=D6=C5 =CE=C5 =D0=CF=D3=CD=CF=D4=D2=C5=D7,= =DE=D4=CF =D7 NM =C5=D3=D4=D8? > =D1 =D0=D2=CF=DB=D5 =D0=D2=CF=DD=C5=CE=C9=D1, =D4=D2=C5=C4 =D0=D2=CF NM = =D1 =D0=D2=CF=D0=D5=D3=D4=C9=CC, =D0=CF=D4=CF=CD=D5 =CD=CF=C7=D5 =C2=D9=D4= =D8 =CE=C5 =D7 =CB=D5=D2=D3=C5 > =D0=CF=D3=CC=C5=C4=CE=C9=C8 =D3=CF=C2=D9=D4=C9=CA >=20 > =CF=D3=CE=CF=D7=CE=C1=D1 =CD=D9=D3=CC=D8 =D5 =CD=C5=CE=D1 - =CE=C5 =D0=CC= =CF=C4=C9=D4=D8 =D3=D5=DD=CE=CF=D3=D4=C5=CA. =C5=D3=CC=C9 =D3=D4=CF=C9=D4 = =DA=C1=C4=C1=DE=C1 =D3=C4=C1=D4=D8 > =D2=C1=C2=CF=DE=C5=C5 =D2=C5=DB=C5=CE=C9=C5, =CE=C5 =D0=D2=C9=C4=C9=D2=C1= =D1=D3=D8 =CB =CB=D2=C1=D3=C9=D7=CF/=CE=C5 =CB=D2=C1=D3=C9=D7=CF, =CC=CF=C7= =C9=DE=CE=CF/=CE=C5 > =CC=CF=C7=C9=DE=CE=CF - =CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =C9 =CE=C1 NM. >=20 > =CE=CF =D7 =C9=D4=CF=C7=C5 =C8=CF=D4=C5=CC=CF=D3=D8 =C2=D9 =D7=C9=C4=C5= =D4=D8 =C3=C5=CE=D4=D2=CF=CD =D3=C5=D4=C5=D7=CF=CA =C9=CE=C6=D2=C1=D3=D4=D2= =D5=CB=D4=D5=D2=D9 =D5=D6=C5 > =D3=D5=DD=C5=D3=D4=D7=D5=C0=DD=C5=C5 =D2=C5=DB=C5=CE=C9=C5. =D0=D5=D3=D4= =D8 NM =CE=C5 ip link/ip addr, wpa_supplicant =C9 > =C9=D6=C5 =D3 =CE=C9=CD=C9 =C4=C5=D2=C7=C1=C5=D4, =C1 etcnet. =C1 =D7=D9= =C7=CC=D1=C4=C5=D4=D8 =CF=CE =CD=CF=D6=C5=D4 =CB=C1=CB =C9 =D3=C5=CA=DE=C1= =D3. =C4=C1=D6=C5 =CE=C5 =D0=D2=C5=C4=D3=D4=C1=D7=CC=D1=C0. > =CB=D3=D4=C1=D4=C9, =D0=CF=D3=D4=C1=D7=C9=CC =D1 =C5=C7=CF =D3=C5=CA=DE= =C1=D3. =CF=CE =D7=D9=C7=CE=C1=CC etcnet =D3 iface'=C1 =C9 =DA=C1=C8=CF=D4= =C5=CC > =CF=D4=CB=CF=CE=C6=C9=C7=D5=D2=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=D4=D8 =C5=C7=CF =D3=C1=CD. = =CF=C8=C8, =D2=C5=DB=C1=D4=D8 =C5=DD=A3 =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=D5 =C9=C8=CE= =C9=C8 =C4=D2=C1=CB =DA=C1 > =C9=CE=D4=C5=D2=C6=C5=CA=D3=D9. =D5=C7=D5. =FC=D4=CF =D3=C5=CA=DE=C1=D3 =CF=D3=CE=CF=D7=CE=C1=D1 =D0=D2=CF= =C2=CC=C5=CD=C1. > > > > =EB =D0=D2=C9=CD=C5=D2=D5, =CB=C1=CB =F7=D9 =D3=CF=C2=C9=D2=C1=C5= =D4=C5=D3=D8 =D2=C5=C1=CC=C9=DA=CF=D7=D9=D7=C1=D4=D8 =C8=D2=C1=CE=C5=CE=C9= =C5 =D0=C1=D2=CF=CC=C5=CA =D7 > > > > Gnome-keyring? =E1 =D7=C5=C4=D8 =D7 =D2=C1=CD=CB=C1=C8 =CB=CF=CE=C3= =C5=D0=C3=C9=C9 NM =DC=D4=CF =CF=DE=C5=CE=D8 =D0=D2=C1=D7=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF. > =CB=D3=D4=C1=D4=C9, =CD=D9=D3=CC=D8 =D0=D2=C9=DB=CC=C1 - =C5=D3=CC=C9 NM = =C9=D3=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=D5=C5=D4 gnome kayring, =D4=CF kde > =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC=D1=CD =CF=CE =DA=C1=DE=C5=CD? =F4=D5=D4 =D1 =D3=CC=C5=C7=CB=C1 =D3=D2=C5=DA=C1=CC =CF=C2=DF=D1=D3=CE=C5= =CE=C9=C5, =CF=D4=D3=C0=C4=C1 =CE=C5=D0=CF=CE=C9=CD=C1=CE=C9=C5. =E5=D3=D4=D8 NM - =DC=D4=CF =C4=C5=CD=CF=CE. =E5=D3=D4=D8 =CE=C5=D3=CB=CF= =CC=D8=CB=CF UI =CB =CE=C5=CD=D5. =EF=C4=C9=CE CLI (nm-tool), =CF=C4=C9=CE = =20 Gnome applet (nm-applet). =F0=CF=D3=CC=C5=C4=CE=C9=CA =C9 =C8=D2=C1=CE=C9= =D4 =D0=C1=D2=CF=CC=C9 =D7 Gnome-keyring. =20 =F4.=CF. =C4=C5=CD=CF=CE =CF =D0=C1=D2=CF=CC=D1=C8 =CE=C9=DE=C5=C7=CF =CE= =C5 =DA=CE=C1=C5=D4. =E1 =DA=CE=C1=C5=D4 =C1=C7=C5=CE=D4. =F0=CF =C9=C4=C5= =C5, =EB=E4=E5-=DB=CE=D9=CA =20 =C1=C7=C5=CE=D4 =C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE =C8=D2=C1=CE=C9=D4=D8 =D0=C1=D2=CF=CC=C9= =C9=CE=C1=DE=C5 (=D7 =EB=E4=E5 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =C1=CE=C1=CC=CF=C7 Gnome-keyri= ng). --=20 Ildar Mulyukov, free SW designer/programmer/packager =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D email: ildar@altlinux.ru Jabber: ildar@jabber.ru ICQ: 4334029 ALT Linux Sisyphus http://www.sisyphus.ru =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D