From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bancDDJvSPNxR1WUcNre5HZ796ot3ed//DxvffaJc6A=; b=fkGM2HmgPijmHfvigsewbKkXoT7i0yFspQDJUTPwRaTiBwUlISPKvOtdiroocz0+D2 j/MslWJFUnq2irUNJMgm1y6YKwXn7otW4B8JMWNgVSGm6BNrIpm59pPT0yk3pWAWMaDW VMwfyWpiwPIIv5IXNypJzjrzUP9vHuSVR7dWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ouejUrOqkPdKUbMTzN54x+CC3OeY/nrwI53mKd7EI7ucWWRY/McP5oWlFYidhnTYbA h1aDz+FNshsR7qwZiLbHcTFcGswjhYGUjee/S3H4PbVAuq85rRrCLf46f2MpMfZmVjuJ phnb6Y2gpNkzFpfA2+ll4bJMw+sWolGHyleiY= Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:18:56 +0300 From: Alexander Potashev To: KDE russian translation mailing list Message-ID: <20100126141856.GA14129@myhost> References: <20100120164219.GA9068@myhost> <20100126105040.GA8673@myhost> <20100126105533.GA8880@myhost> <201001261305.05914.vityazdron@gmail.com> <20100126115921.GA15870@myhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100126115921.GA15870@myhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: [kde-russian] Copyright notices X-BeenThere: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: KDE russian translation mailing list List-Id: KDE russian translation mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:20:05 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: Я думаю, можно спокойно везде писать "© Разработчики Xxxxx, YEAR". Из #kde-devel на Freenode: [17:01:12] aspotashev: hi! [17:01:20] hi [17:01:26] did you get my email? [17:03:05] yes [17:03:17] but did you check the code files about copyright? [17:03:33] no [17:03:40] what you sent me are from main.cpp files, not from existing coding files [17:03:56] but we first need to fix the strings that are visible to users [17:03:59] what matters legally are copyrights in code files [17:04:05] why? [17:04:25] I don't think that matters much [17:04:37] I could "grep" all the sources, but that's too many files [17:04:55] module per module [17:05:13] when I answered about copyright I meant source files copyright [17:05:23] oh.. [17:05:38] what to put in AboutData is very difficult [17:06:13] if you take KHangMan it has lots of "thanks to" [17:06:23] and it's not even accurate [17:06:54] at some point I wanted to ensure every contributor would be thanked but that's just impossible [17:07:21] that's what is translated [17:07:29] legally this has no value [17:08:03] I really care only about the first page of "About..." boxes [17:08:21] so what do you suggest for it [17:08:27] the other pages are more or less clear [17:09:27] this has no legal value [17:09:37] so copyright to a team is OK [17:10:05] I suggest "(c) YEAR APP Developers" [17:10:07] I don't see what's your problem then [17:10:26] aspotashev: note what's in the about dialog has no legal value, sources matter [17:10:28] you mean "Team" versus "Developers" [17:10:30] the problem is that it's sometimes "(c) ... Authors" [17:10:49] aspotashev: just translate what you get [17:10:58] and do not look further [17:11:06] ok, thanks [17:11:16] what's the difference between "Team" and "Developers" [17:11:21] none [17:11:44] what I thought is that you discovered SOURCE code with team as copyright [17:11:55] that is wrong [17:12:39] there are such files in KDE code [17:12:51] those shoudl be tracked and dealt with [17:13:20] the "About" is just information given to the user and not important On 14:59 Tue 26 Jan , Alexander Potashev wrote: > On 13:05 Tue 26 Jan , Andrey Serbovets wrote: > > > Но в любом случае здесь нужно навести порядок, договориться о > > > каких-то правилах. > > > > > Почему не спросить у самих участников проекта? Может они дадут внятный ответ. > > Написал в рассылку kde-i18n-doc. > > > -- > Alexander Potashev -- Alexander Potashev