From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:50:02 +0400 From: Grisha Mokhin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11447345409.20020619105002@bog.msu.ru> To: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru CC: norbu@t-online.de, knoll@kde.org In-Reply-To: <20020619002153.B28589@bednar.sk> References: <200206181424.03049.thd@kde.org> <20020618151113.A15941@bednar.sk> <200206181552.17434.thd@kde.org> <304427446.20020618225444@bog.msu.ru> <20020619002153.B28589@bednar.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [kde-russian] Re[2]: Tibetan input Sender: kde-russian-admin@lists.kde.ru Errors-To: kde-russian-admin@lists.kde.ru X-BeenThere: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: KDE russian translation mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Archived-At: List-Archive: Hello Juraj, JB> we've been consulting these things with Eric Bischoff. Our best JB> bet is to try to summarize, what Tibetan characters are NOT in JB> Unicode and try to file a proposal to add them there. Unicode JB> standard is constantly improving and there should be no problem JB> with this. JB> Would you like to help this? Yes, definitely. Actually, from lgm.ttf font I can see for sure that 255 symbols are quite enough for all Tibetan input, including punctuation and complex Sanskrit stacks for mantras, that are very common in Tibetan texts. However, most of Tibetan letters are combined from top to bottom, and sometimes there are four symbols combined to give a single Tibetan letter, like HUM. The existing Tibetan Unicode page was not designed with this feature in mind, so it is not applicable for real life, and we should modify it or have another codepage assigned. We can even try to make an 8 bit codepage for Tibetan, because with smart design all basic Tibetan characters can be fit into 128 symbols. JB> Second thing: as I don't have Windows license, I can't try your JB> program. Could you please explain how are the characters entered JB> from keyboard? I believe the Tibetan alphabet is not caligraphical JB> (like chineese), so there should be only few letter (35?). So each JB> character is typed with single keystroke or do you need some JB> combinations? There are 30 letters in Tibetan alphabet. But they are modified in their graphic representation depending on their position in a syllable. They are combined from left to right and from top to bottom. The standard way to type Tibetan is to use Wylie transliteration, where Tibetan letters are represented by English transliterated form. When I type, for example, a Tibetan syllable "tshan", first I type "t" and Tibetan "t" is displayed on the screen. Then I type "s", and it means I have to delete "t" (by sending a backspace simulated keystroke) and display Tibetan "ts". Same with "tsh" - "ts" should be deleted and replaced by "tsh". Then I type "a" and nothing happens, because "a" has no graphical representation in "tshan" glyph, and at the end - "n", and Tibetan "n" is added to "tsh", forming the final syllable. Best wishes, Grisha