From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 325354, updated: 14.03.2008] Message-ID: <47DA3921.9020906@codis.com.ru> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:36:49 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?0KHQvtC70L7QvNC+0L3QvtCyINChINCd?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@lists.altlinux.org, shigorin@gmail.com References: <20080312074753.GB695@mw.office.seiros.ru> <9bd187690803120333l1244333ds83bdd20f5a452484@mail.gmail.com> <20080312104817.GA23540@lks.home> <20080312151432.GQ30523@osdn.org.ua> <9bd187690803120836h6e74cb7m6fd1b6290453cb3a@mail.gmail.com> <20080313220157.GP30523@osdn.org.ua> <20080314081331.GQ30495@osdn.org.ua> In-Reply-To: <20080314081331.GQ30495@osdn.org.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Hardware] x86_64 ovz iptables -JT X-BeenThere: hardware@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: hardware@lists.altlinux.org List-Id: ALT Linux hardware support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:36:50 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: =D0=91=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=88=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=84=D0=BD=D0=B5= =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BD= =D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2! Michael Shigorin =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:36:59AM +0600, Michael Pozhidaev wrote: >>>> =D0=92=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81, =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82= =D1=8C =D0=BE=D1=84=D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9= =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D0=B3=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B8, =D0=B8=D0= =BB=D0=B8 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0= =B8 =D1=8E=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C? >>> =D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=88, =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=B8= =D0=B3=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 -- =D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BC=D1= =8B=D0=B5 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=88=D0=B8=D0= =BD=D1=8B =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BE =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=83 >> =D0=94=D0=B0, =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BE-=D1=85=D0=BE=D1=80=D0= =BE=D1=88=D0=BE. =D0=9C=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=81=D1=91= =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8A=D1=8F=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8. =D0=94=D0=B5=D0=BB= =D0=B0 >> 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"=D0=B4=D0=B0=D1=88=D0=BE=D0=B6=D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE= =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82"), =D0= =BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0= =BA =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=83. >=20 > =D0=92=D0=B7=D1=8F=D0=BB=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B7=D0=B0 =D0=B3=D1=83=D0=B6 --= =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B8, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0= =BD=D0=B5 =D0=B4=D1=8E=D0=B6 :) >=20 >> *** >> =D0=94=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8B= , >> =D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1= =82: =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=BE=D0= =B1=D0=BA=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C "=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1= =80" >> (2.6.18-ovz-smp-alt14 #1 SMP Wed May 2 15:41:34 MSD 2007 x86_64 >> GNU/Linux), =D0=B2=D1=81=D1=91 =D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D0= =B3=D0=BE, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=BD=D0=BE = 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