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From: Sergey Bolshakov <sbolshakov@altlinux.ru>
To: devel@lists.altlinux.org
Subject: Re: [devel] runglish
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:16:39 +0300
Message-ID: <m3iqdy9w7c.fsf@hammer.lioka.obninsk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091029121337.GD20317@wo.int.altlinux.org>

>>>>> "Dmitry" == Dmitry V Levin <ldv-u2l5PoMzF/Vg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> writes:

 > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:58:56PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
 > [...]
 >> If these people fail to understand my _primitive_ English, then they surely
 >> fail to read NEWS and ChangeLog files, they certainly cannot talk to upstream,
 >> and therefore don't qualify as good package maintainers.  They haven't
 >> read good books and papers because these books (and especially papers) are
 >> mostly written in English, so they probably do not understand code well enough.
 >> If they want to be good package maintainers, then they have to learn this
 >> "ugly language".  And if they won't learn, why should I help them?

 > I'm sure that basic English reading skills are strictly necessary to
 > maintain packages with free software.
 > If somebody tells me that he doesn't understand my plain English,
 > I can answer him that I don't trust his packages by definition.

Поздравляю подписчиков, выступающих за сохранение русского как
основного языка в этой рассылке -- вы купились.

Правильная аргументация:
степень моего владения лунным -- никого не касается;
указания на то, что вот-де, я плохой майнтайнер, коль не в состоянии
понять ридмишку на плэйн пиджине -- не более чем частное мнение одного
или нескольких подписчиков и не могут быть приняты в качестве
аргумента для введения в оборот английского, поскольку ... переход на начало.
если короче: НЕ ХОЧУ.

Далее всё просто:
- с этого момента я декларирую своё неучастие в дискуссиях, ведущихся
  на английском;
- я намерен добиваться соответствующих изменений в правилах этой
  рассылки.

-- 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 22:19 [devel] Песочница и аудит для Альтератора Paul Wolneykien
2009-10-28 22:35 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2009-10-29  3:43   ` REAL
2009-10-29  4:43     ` Grigory Batalov
2009-10-29  9:49     ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29  9:56       ` [devel] runglish Anton Farygin
2009-10-29 10:14         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-10-29 10:25           ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-10-29 10:36           ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29 10:41           ` Sergei Epiphanov
2009-10-29 11:58             ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-10-29 12:13               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-10-29 12:21                 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2009-10-29 12:24                   ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-10-29 13:16                 ` Sergey Bolshakov [this message]
2009-10-29 14:28                   ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
2009-10-29 14:44                     ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-29 14:53                       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
2009-10-29 22:28                         ` [devel] Administrativia Dmitry V. Levin
2009-10-29 19:06                     ` [devel] runglish Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-10-29 19:36                     ` Konstantin Pavlov
2009-10-29 20:01                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2009-10-29 20:19                         ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-10-29 21:02                           ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-29 22:36                             ` Led
2009-10-29 22:44                               ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-10-30  4:17                             ` REAL
2009-10-30  6:15                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-10-30  6:39                               ` REAL
2009-10-30  4:16                       ` REAL
2009-10-30  6:19                     ` Vladimir V. Kamarzin
2009-10-29 14:35                   ` Alexey Gladkov
2009-10-29 12:24               ` [devel] [OFF] runglish Sergei Epiphanov
2009-10-29 12:24               ` [devel] runglish Alex Gorbachenko
2009-10-30 17:47               ` [devel] апстрим "vs" downstream Michael Shigorin
2009-10-29 10:44           ` [devel] runglish Anton Farygin
2009-10-29 10:52             ` Damir Shayhutdinov
2009-10-29 10:55               ` Anton Farygin
2009-10-30 17:13             ` Michael Shigorin
2009-10-30  6:53           ` Afanasov Dmitry
2009-10-30  7:20             ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-10-30  7:46               ` Алексей Шенцев
2009-10-30  7:53                 ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-10-30 14:06             ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-30 14:07               ` [devel] opera + flash Afanasov Dmitry
2009-10-30 16:42                 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-30 17:06           ` [devel] выбирая язык Michael Shigorin
2009-10-30 19:02             ` Денис Корявов
2009-10-29 12:18         ` [devel] runglish Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-10-29 15:00           ` Anton Farygin
2009-10-29  9:56       ` [devel] Песочница и аудит для Альтератора Konstantin Pavlov
2009-10-29 10:01         ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-10-29 10:11           ` Алексей Шенцев
2009-10-29 10:17             ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-10-29 10:22             ` Dmitriy Kruglikov
2009-10-29 10:37               ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-10-29 11:00                 ` Dmitriy Kruglikov
2009-10-29 11:07                   ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-29 10:31             ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29 10:34               ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
2009-10-29 10:37               ` Dmitriy Kruglikov
2009-10-29 10:40                 ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29 10:43                   ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-29 10:44                     ` Mykola S. Grechukh
2009-10-29 10:46                     ` Mikhail A. Pokidko
2009-10-29 10:48                       ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-10-29 11:03                         ` Sergei Epiphanov
2009-10-29 10:59                     ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29 10:51               ` AShen
2009-10-29 10:31         ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-10-29  6:18 ` Anton Farygin
2009-10-29 11:04   ` [devel] Песочница и аудит для Альтератора + language Paul Wolneykien
2009-10-30  7:24   ` [devel] Песочница и аудит для Альтератора Stanislav Ievlev
2009-10-30  8:41     ` Anton Farygin
2009-10-30  8:46       ` Stanislav Ievlev
2009-10-30 11:10     ` Paul Wolneykien
2009-10-30 13:14       ` Stanislav Ievlev
2009-10-30 13:25         ` Stanislav Ievlev
2009-11-03 21:28           ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-11-04 12:21             ` Paul Wolneykien
2009-10-30 13:36         ` Paul Wolneykien
2009-11-02  8:38           ` Stanislav Ievlev
2009-10-30 19:41 ` Michael Shigorin

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