From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on sa.local.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rosalinux.ru To: ALT Linux Team development discussions References: <4637614.GXAFRqVoOG@zerg.malta.altlinux.ru> <4310dfc7-92ac-e677-2ff5-366b1224ac07@basealt.ru> <58e747b3-31e9-fec8-dfde-41a9b1fe8877@basealt.ru> From: Mikhail Novosyolov Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:41:11 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [devel] =?utf-8?b?STogc3lzdGVtZC0yNDguMy1hbHQyINC4INC60L7QvdGE?= =?utf-8?b?0LvQuNC60YIg0YHQviBzdGFydHVw?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 14:41:15 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: 08.07.2021 17:27, Vladimir D. Seleznev =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 05:23:09PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote: >> On 08.07.2021 17:18, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 05:12:20PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote: >>>> On 08.07.2021 17:11, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 04:41:38PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote: >>>>>> On 08.07.2021 16:30, Vladimir D. 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