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On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 10:18:13PM +0300, Paul Wolneykien wrote:
> =D0=92 Tue, 29 Sep 2026 21:44:43 +0300
> Anton Farygin =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>=20
> > On 9/29/26 21:39, Arseny Maslennikov wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 10:28:38PM +0800, Alexei Takaseev wrote: =20
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> =D0=A1=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0=
 =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=B9 =
sysuser=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=A1=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=84=
=D0=B0 =D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B4=
=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=8F=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD,
> > >> =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=
=B5=D0=B9 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C.
> > >> =D0=92=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82 =D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D1=8D=D1=
=82=D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD =D0=B1=D1=8D=D0=BA=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=
=80=D1=82 =D1=84=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B8 =D0=B2 p10, p11 (=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=B8 =D0=
=B2 c10/c11 =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5)? =20
> > > =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=8E =D0=B4=D0=BB=
=D1=8F =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B0=D0=B2=
=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82:
> > > https://altlinux.space/arseny/ug-preinstall
> > > =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B8 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=
=D0=B5=D1=82 readme =D1=81 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BC=
 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=
=D1=8F.
> > >
> > > =D0=94=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=
=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BC=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=BF=D0=B0=
=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D1=81=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=84=D0=B0 =
=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 p11.
> > > =D0=9E=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=D1=84=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BC=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=
=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BC=
=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D1=83=
=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82, =D0=B2 %post =D0=
=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE
> > > =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D1=83=D1=82 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B s=
hadow-utils. =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B2=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=B9=
=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=A3=D0=93-=D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=
=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C
> > > =D0=B2=D1=81=D1=91, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=
, =D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D1=83=D1=81=D1=
=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BA=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=
=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2=D1=81=D1=91, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D1=83=
=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE;
> > > =D0=B0 =D0=B2 =D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=
=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=81 =D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=80=
=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 =D1=81=D0=BA=
=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=
=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C
> > > =D1=8F=D0=B2=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B8=
=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=92 p11 =D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=B6=
=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=81=D0=B0=
=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=
=B5=D0=BD=D0=B0,
> > > =D0=B2 =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=B8=
=D1=85 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B2=
=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B0 "=D1=83=D0=BD=
=D1=8B=D0=BB=D1=8B=D0=B9" =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82.
> > >
> > > =D0=9E=D1=82=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=A3=
=D0=93-=D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=B6=D0=B8=
=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=87=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=
=D0=BD=D0=BE.
> > > =D0=A1=D0=BF=D0=B5=D0=BA =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE=
=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=
=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BD =D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=BB=
=D1=8F =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D0=BE-=D1=81=D1=82=
=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83, =D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F
> > > =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D0=BE-=D0=BD=D0=BE=
=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83.
> > > =D0=92 =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=
=D1=85 =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=B0=
=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0, =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=
=D0=BB=D0=BE, =D0=BF=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B2=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=8E=D0=B7=D0=B5=D1=80=
=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=B8
> > > =D0=BF=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B2=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=BF=D0=BF=D1=
=8B =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=82, =D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=BA =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82=
 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=
=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BC
> > > =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC. =D0=90 =D0=B5=
=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B2=D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3 =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=
=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BC =E2=80=94 =D1=83=D0=BD=D1=
=8B=D0=BB=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=
=B5=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F
> > > =D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=
=BA=D0=B8, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B7=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =
=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=B9=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=B9=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0 =D0=BC=
=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=B0. =20
> >=20
> > =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B5-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=
=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=
=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8B=D1=85 =D0=BC=D1=83=D1=81=D0=
=BE=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=
=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F. =D0=90 =D0=BA=D1=
=82=D0=BE=20
> > =D0=B8=D1=85 =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=
=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=
=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8 ?
> >=20
> > =D0=9D=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D0=BF=
=D1=80=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=
=D0=B0 ?
>=20
>   =D0=9C=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=
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=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=
=87=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8, =D0=B2=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=
=BA debuginfo
> =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F. =D0=90 =D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=
=82 =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C...

=D0=A1=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 debuginfo-=D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=
=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2 =E2=80=94 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=
=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9-=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=
=BC=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=B4=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B6=D0=BE=D0=BA =D0=B2
rpm-build, =D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D1=85=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE =
=D0=B2 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B4 =D0=BD=D0=B0 C =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=
=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B9. =D0=A0=D0=B0=D0=
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