From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on sa.local.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=altlinux.org; s=dkim; h=Subject:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Bchdxpce77Prdtp+rN2/fgU9rBxLD4+XiYnYDN/cDwg=; b=HAksyomdV/TaChoL41tYjtYZiH fK6fBXCcwki+joS71XOcyIgrxGtch3oKiNu2U3LO+vuV7WGwPlOEyUr9LWpoITTecPmhJSp1/MnMw YAPrFQerCfCyl6SArzLzzuzu/j8BHDQB8K5nOpPS/+YFhs9Eu/fWtUnaISi1cRsGp2aD+BgRuEfBK toSjNh19XMbal5yQ19wbSyQ/s47qpsPH252TJCRWCogfVPmdB/uKvLD1sXpSUjbpAHsDzhgKxNbn1 KCZoVGcoDZNa8f+IKkmcRs9XXx3h5iMGNzxr5vYvLANZ5W48sDEeoTObOZFCRJ+lmwV+bWUGHZvoJ zh8qlGtw==; Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 15:22:38 +0300 From: Arseny Maslennikov To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Message-ID: References: <6823795.DvuYhMxLoT@ztation.smnr> <875f6d0f-6212-46f4-90e7-1b8947c0fe80@altlinux.org> <82b455b59a265c91b39d216c53b52fea3932f4c5.camel@altlinux.org> <1dfd2fa2-a858-45b8-87d2-9e848012bff4@altlinux.org> <20250620204744.681933c8@google-analytics.com> <1d4b9f1a-3e89-4e35-87e6-36beae99cf82@basealt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sBT/scXNHTo009mJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d4b9f1a-3e89-4e35-87e6-36beae99cf82@basealt.ru> OpenPGP: url=http://grep.cs.msu.ru/~ar/pgp-key.asc X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 37.204.126.93 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: arseny@altlinux.org X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.cs.msu.ru); Unknown failure Subject: Re: [devel] =?utf-8?b?ZmlyZXdhbGwg0LTQu9GPINC/0YDQuNC70L7QttC10L0=?= =?utf-8?b?0LjQuQ==?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2025 12:22:43 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --sBT/scXNHTo009mJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 09:25:59AM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote: > On 6/30/25 21:19, Arseny Maslennikov wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 09:16:00PM +0300, Arseny Maslennikov wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 08:47:44PM +0300, Denis Medvedev wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 20:04:09 +0300 > > > > Semen Fomchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=8B=D1=82=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8= =D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B7=D1=82=D1=8C = =D0=B2 =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82. =D0=A2=D0=BE=D0=B3= =D0=B4=D0=B0 =D1=83=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=B2, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0= =BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 > > > > "=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B0" =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0= =B7=D0=BB=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82, = =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B > > > > =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=BC= =D1=83 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE > > > > =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D1=8D=D1= =82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 > > > > =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB= =D0=B8=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=82=D1=80= =D0=B0=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=BA, > > > > =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=82= =D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4 =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0= =B5=D1=82=D1=8C. > > > nftables =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0= =B2=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0= =B0 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=BA, =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8= =D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82= =D1=83, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B9 > > > =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BA=D1=80=D1=8B=D1=82 =D0=B2 =D1=81= =D0=B8=D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=BF=D0=BF=D0=B5 X =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1= =82 UID Y. 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