* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 @ 2009-02-13 0:55 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 9:06 ` Денис Смирнов 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 599 bytes --] On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:34PM +0300, Girar Builder robot wrote: > 2009-Feb-10 15:25:03 :: task #648 for sisyphus started: > #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git [...] > 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch `sisyphus' Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 0:55 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 10:58 ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov ` (2 more replies) 2009-02-13 9:06 ` Денис Смирнов 1 sibling, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1154 bytes --] On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:34PM +0300, Girar Builder robot wrote: > > 2009-Feb-10 15:25:03 :: task #648 for sisyphus started: > > #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from > > /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git > > [...] > > > 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch > > `sisyphus' > > Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: > > firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed > in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging > violation > > См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми -- Valery V. Inozemtsev [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 10:58 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-13 11:54 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 11:58 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Alexey Gladkov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-02-13 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 438 bytes --] Twas brillig at 11:27:37 13.02.2009 UTC+03 when shrek@altlinux.ru did gyre and gimble: VVI> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты VVI> 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми Вот поэтому полиси и надо обсуждать :) Предлагаю считать это началом обсуждения. -- [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 10:58 ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-02-13 11:54 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 12:17 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 11:58 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Alexey Gladkov 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 917 bytes --] On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: [...] > > Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: > > > > firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed > > in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging > > violation > > > > См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy > > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not be 'noarch' > sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation > > 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты Могут, но зачем? > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми? -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 11:54 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 12:17 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 14:30 ` Michail Yakushin 2009-02-13 15:57 ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1365 bytes --] On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > > On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > [...] > > > > Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: > > > > > > firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be > > > placed in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware > > > packaging violation > > > > > > См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy > > > > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should > > start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng > > /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not > > be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging > > violation > > > > 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты > > Могут, но зачем? пример - kernel-image-std-* > > > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми > > Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми? не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно. пример - alsa-firmware -- Valery V. Inozemtsev [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 12:17 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 14:30 ` Michail Yakushin 2009-02-13 17:15 ` [devel] firmware-* Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 15:57 ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Michail Yakushin @ 2009-02-13 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: >>> On Friday 13 February 2009 03:55:48 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> [...] >> >>>> Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: >>>> >>>> firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be >>>> placed in /lib/firmware/ sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware >>>> packaging violation >>>> >>>> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should >>> start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not >>> be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging >>> violation >>> >>> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты >> Могут, но зачем? > > пример - kernel-image-std-* А что с ядрами делать? они фирмварь содержат. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] firmware-* 2009-02-13 14:30 ` Michail Yakushin @ 2009-02-13 17:15 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 924 bytes --] On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 05:30:20PM +0300, Michail Yakushin wrote: > Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: [...] > >>>> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy > >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: package NAME should > >>> start with the 'firmware-': kernel-image-std-ng > >>> /.out/kernel-image-std-ng-2.6.27-alt22.i686.rpm: architecture should not > >>> be 'noarch' sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging > >>> violation > >>> > >>> 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты > >> Могут, но зачем? > > > > пример - kernel-image-std-* > А что с ядрами делать? они фирмварь содержат. Причём на разных архитектурах состав отличается. Ну что же, это значит, что пакеты kernel-image-* являются исключением из правила. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] alsa-firmware 2009-02-13 12:17 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 14:30 ` Michail Yakushin @ 2009-02-13 15:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 16:37 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 651 bytes --] On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: [...] > > > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми > > > > Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми? > > не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно. > пример - alsa-firmware alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.i586.rpm и alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.x86_64.rpm внутри ничем не отличаются, предлагаю переименовать бинарный пакет в firmware-alsa и сделать его noarch'ем. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] alsa-firmware 2009-02-13 15:57 ` [devel] alsa-firmware Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 16:37 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 982 bytes --] On Friday 13 February 2009 18:57:47 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > > On Friday 13 February 2009 14:54:26 Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:27:37AM +0300, Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > > [...] > > > > > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми > > > > > > Действительно ли _firmware_ могут быть архитектурно зависимыми? > > > > не так выразился. то что не в бинарях собрать как noarch затруднительно. > > пример - alsa-firmware > > alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.i586.rpm и alsa-firmware-1.0.19-alt1.x86_64.rpm > внутри ничем не отличаются, предлагаю переименовать бинарный пакет в > firmware-alsa и сделать его noarch'ем. дык решили уже -- Valery V. Inozemtsev [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev 2009-02-13 10:58 ` [devel] Firmware policy (Was: Re: [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1) Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-13 11:54 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin @ 2009-02-13 11:58 ` Alexey Gladkov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Alexey Gladkov @ 2009-02-13 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Valery V. Inozemtsev wrote: > 1. фирмвари могут таскать с собой другие пакеты Сама firmware другие файлы не содержит. Пакет таскать может, но лучше их выделять в отдельный пакет. > 2. фирмвари могут быть архитектурно зависимыми Можно конкретный пример? -- Rgrds, legion ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 0:55 ` [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-13 8:27 ` Valery V. Inozemtsev @ 2009-02-13 9:06 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-13 12:01 ` Alexey Gladkov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Денис Смирнов @ 2009-02-13 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 934 bytes --] On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:55:48AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >> #1 build firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 from /people/mithraen/packages/firmware-seiros-ti24.git DVL> [...] >> 2009-Feb-10 15:28:21 :: created /gears/f/firmware-seiros-ti24.git branch `sisyphus' DVL> Вот что об этом думает sisyphus_check-0.8.8-alt1: DVL> firmware-seiros-ti24-1.2-alt1.noarch.rpm: firmware files should be placed in /lib/firmware/ DVL> sisyphus_check: check-firmware ERROR: firmware packaging violation DVL> См. http://www.altlinux.org/FirmwarePolicy Эта firmware отличается от других тем, что ее не нужно загружать при старте драйверов. Это просто обновление прошивки. Драйвера ее сами обновлять не умеют, и udev'ам и прочим умным утилитам об этой firmware знать не следует. Как это правильно паковать? -- С уважением, Денис http://freesource.info ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [#648] COMPLETE firmware-seiros-ti24.git=firmware-seiros-ti24/1.2-alt1 2009-02-13 9:06 ` Денис Смирнов @ 2009-02-13 12:01 ` Alexey Gladkov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Alexey Gladkov @ 2009-02-13 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Денис Смирнов wrote: то просто обновление прошивки. Драйвера > ее сами обновлять не умеют, и udev'ам и прочим умным утилитам об этой > firmware знать не следует. Значит это не firmware, а именно прошивка. > Как это правильно паковать? Тогда не нужно называть пакет с префиксом "firmware-". Этого будет достаточно для правильной запаковки этого пакета. -- Rgrds, legion ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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