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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  @ 2009-06-25  7:35         ` Anton Farygin
  2009-06-25  8:28           ` Mikhail Gusarov
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From: Anton Farygin @ 2009-06-25  7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Aleksey Novodvorsky пишет:
> 25 июня 2009 г. 10:56 пользователь Sergey (a_s_y@sama.ru) написал:
>> On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Aleksey Novodvorsky wrote:
>>
>>>> Ещё бы ovz на него для однообразия... Типа размечтался. :-)
>>> Зачем ovz на десктопе?
>> На десктопе, особенно, если это десктоп продвинутого пользователя, или,
>> тем более, разработчика, какие-то нестандартные ситуации могут возникать
>> чаще, чем на достаточно статичной конфигурации сервера. Следовательно,
>> как мне кажется, есть хорошая вероятность вытоптать какие-нибудь грабли
>> заранее, не дожидаясь их на сервере.
> 
> Да, но тогда придется мириться с отставанием патчей ovz, которые
> обычно ориенитруются на предполагаемое ядро в новом RHEL.
> Увы, ovz не вошел в апстримное ядро.

Хорошо, что kvm вошёл ;) Многие вещи, на десктопе, отлично делаются в kvm.

Осталось только написать kvm2ovz converter...



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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  7:35         ` [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview] Anton Farygin
@ 2009-06-25  8:28           ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-25  8:58             ` Anton Farygin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-06-25  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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Twas brillig at 11:35:00 25.06.2009 UTC+04 when rider@altlinux.com did gyre and gimble:

 AF> Осталось только написать kvm2ovz converter...

И какой-нибудь kvmctl, по удобству сравнимый с vzctl.

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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  8:28           ` Mikhail Gusarov
@ 2009-06-25  8:58             ` Anton Farygin
  2009-06-25  9:01               ` Mikhail Gusarov
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From: Anton Farygin @ 2009-06-25  8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Mikhail Gusarov пишет:
> Twas brillig at 11:35:00 25.06.2009 UTC+04 when rider@altlinux.com did gyre and gimble:
> 
>  AF> Осталось только написать kvm2ovz converter...
> 
> И какой-нибудь kvmctl, по удобству сравнимый с vzctl.

libvirt (virsh) ?



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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  8:58             ` Anton Farygin
@ 2009-06-25  9:01               ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-25  9:40                 ` Ildar Mulyukov
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From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-06-25  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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Twas brillig at 12:58:14 25.06.2009 UTC+04 when rider@altlinux.com did gyre and gimble:

 AF> libvirt (virsh) ?

[dottedmag@vertex:~]% virsh help
Commands:

    help            print help
    attach-device   attach device from an XML file
    attach-disk     attach disk device
    attach-interface attach network interface
    autostart       autostart a domain
    capabilities    capabilities
    connect         (re)connect to hypervisor
    console         connect to the guest console
    create          create a domain from an XML file
    start           start a (previously defined) inactive domain
    destroy         destroy a domain
    detach-device   detach device from an XML file
    detach-disk     detach disk device
    detach-interface detach network interface
    define          define (but don't start) a domain from an XML file
    domid           convert a domain name or UUID to domain id
    domuuid         convert a domain name or id to domain UUID
    dominfo         domain information
    domname         convert a domain id or UUID to domain name
    domstate        domain state
    domblkstat      get device block stats for a domain
    domifstat       get network interface stats for a domain
    domxml-from-native Convert native config to domain XML
    domxml-to-native Convert domain XML to native config
    dumpxml         domain information in XML
    edit            edit XML configuration for a domain
    find-storage-pool-sources discover potential storage pool sources
    find-storage-pool-sources-as find potential storage pool sources
    freecell        NUMA free memory
    hostname        print the hypervisor hostname
    list            list domains
    migrate         migrate domain to another host
    net-autostart   autostart a network
    net-create      create a network from an XML file
    net-define      define (but don't start) a network from an XML file
    net-destroy     destroy a network
    net-dumpxml     network information in XML
    net-edit        edit XML configuration for a network
    net-list        list networks
    net-name        convert a network UUID to network name
    net-start       start a (previously defined) inactive network
    net-undefine    undefine an inactive network
    net-uuid        convert a network name to network UUID
    nodeinfo        node information
    nodedev-list    enumerate devices on this host
    nodedev-dumpxml node device details in XML
    nodedev-dettach dettach node device its device driver
    nodedev-reattach reattach node device its device driver
    nodedev-reset   reset node device
    pool-autostart  autostart a pool
    pool-build      build a pool
    pool-create     create a pool from an XML file
    pool-create-as  create a pool from a set of args
    pool-define     define (but don't start) a pool from an XML file
    pool-define-as  define a pool from a set of args
    pool-destroy    destroy a pool
    pool-delete     delete a pool
    pool-dumpxml    pool information in XML
    pool-edit       edit XML configuration for a storage pool
    pool-info       storage pool information
    pool-list       list pools
    pool-name       convert a pool UUID to pool name
    pool-refresh    refresh a pool
    pool-start      start a (previously defined) inactive pool
    pool-undefine   undefine an inactive pool
    pool-uuid       convert a pool name to pool UUID
    quit            quit this interactive terminal
    reboot          reboot a domain
    restore         restore a domain from a saved state in a file
    resume          resume a domain
    save            save a domain state to a file
    schedinfo       show/set scheduler parameters
    dump            dump the core of a domain to a file for analysis
    shutdown        gracefully shutdown a domain
    setmem          change memory allocation
    setmaxmem       change maximum memory limit
    setvcpus        change number of virtual CPUs
    suspend         suspend a domain
    ttyconsole      tty console
    undefine        undefine an inactive domain
    uri             print the hypervisor canonical URI
    vol-create      create a vol from an XML file
    vol-create-from create a vol, using another volume as input
    vol-create-as   create a volume from a set of args
    vol-clone       clone a volume.
    vol-delete      delete a vol
    vol-dumpxml     vol information in XML
    vol-info        storage vol information
    vol-list        list vols
    vol-path        convert a vol UUID to vol path
    vol-name        convert a vol UUID to vol name
    vol-key         convert a vol UUID to vol key
    vcpuinfo        domain vcpu information
    vcpupin         control domain vcpu affinity
    version         show version
    vncdisplay      vnc display

[dottedmag@vertex:~]% 

Это не для моего мозга. Я же сказал - удобный.

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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  9:01               ` Mikhail Gusarov
@ 2009-06-25  9:40                 ` Ildar Mulyukov
  2009-06-25  9:42                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ildar Mulyukov @ 2009-06-25  9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: devel

On 25.06.2009 15:01:52, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> Twas brillig at 12:58:14 25.06.2009 UTC+04 when rider@altlinux.com  
> did gyre and gimble:
>  AF> libvirt (virsh) ?
> 
> [dottedmag@vertex:~]% virsh help
> Commands:
> 
>     help            print help
> 
> Это не для моего мозга. Я же сказал - удобный.

virt-manager
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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  9:40                 ` Ildar Mulyukov
@ 2009-06-25  9:42                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-25 10:35                     ` Anton Farygin
                                       ` (2 more replies)
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From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-06-25  9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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Twas brillig at 15:40:05 25.06.2009 UTC+06 when ildar@altlinux.ru did gyre and gimble:

 IM> virt-manager

[dottedmag@vertex:~]% virt-manager --help
Usage: virt-manager.py [options]

Options:
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit
  --profile=FILE        Generate runtime performance profile stats
  -c URI, --connect=URI
                        Connect to hypervisor at URI
  --debug               Print debug output to stdout (requires --no-fork)
  --no-dbus             Disable DBus service for controlling UI
  --no-fork             Don't fork into background on startup
  --no-conn-autostart   Do not autostart connections
  --show-domain-creator
                        Create a new virtual machine
  --show-domain-editor=UUID
                        Edit a domain configuration
  --show-domain-performance=UUID
                        Show a domain performance
  --show-domain-console=UUID
                        Show a domain console
  --show-host-summary   Show a host summary

Не вижу ни "создать", ни "остановить", а уж про модификацию IP и речи не
идёт.

И ещё vzctl enter!

</troll>

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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  9:42                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
@ 2009-06-25 10:35                     ` Anton Farygin
  2009-06-25 13:50                     ` Yury Yurevich
  2009-06-28  4:10                     ` [devel] [JT] " Ildar Mulyukov
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From: Anton Farygin @ 2009-06-25 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

Mikhail Gusarov пишет:
> Twas brillig at 15:40:05 25.06.2009 UTC+06 when ildar-u2l5PoMzF/Uox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org did gyre and gimble:
> 
> И ещё vzctl enter!
> 
> </troll>

enter в kvm ? даже представить тяжело ;)

А мне вот не нравится интерфейс vzctl, кажется неудобным (после vserver).

Т.е. - по неудобству пользования я не вижу разницы между virsh и vzctl. 
Пожалуй, одинаково.

Впрочем, это всё субъективно...


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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  9:42                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-25 10:35                     ` Anton Farygin
@ 2009-06-25 13:50                     ` Yury Yurevich
  2009-06-25 14:00                       ` Ivan Fedorov
  2009-06-25 14:04                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-28  4:10                     ` [devel] [JT] " Ildar Mulyukov
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Yury Yurevich @ 2009-06-25 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

25 июня 2009 г. 16:42 пользователь Mikhail Gusarov
(dottedmag@altlinux.org) написал:
>
> Twas brillig at 15:40:05 25.06.2009 UTC+06 when ildar@altlinux.ru did gyre and gimble:
>
>  IM> virt-manager
>
> [dottedmag@vertex:~]% virt-manager --help
...
>  --show-domain-creator
>                        Create a new virtual machine
...
>
> Не вижу ни "создать", ни "остановить"
глаз замылился ;-)



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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа:  Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25 13:50                     ` Yury Yurevich
@ 2009-06-25 14:00                       ` Ivan Fedorov
  2009-06-25 14:04                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ivan Fedorov @ 2009-06-25 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux Team development discussions

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Yury Yurevich <the.pythy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
writes:

> 25 июня 2009 г. 16:42 пользователь Mikhail Gusarov
> (dottedmag@altlinux.org) написал:
>>
>> Twas brillig at 15:40:05 25.06.2009 UTC+06 when ildar@altlinux.ru did gyre and gimble:
>>
>>  IM> virt-manager
>>
>> [dottedmag@vertex:~]% virt-manager --help
> ...
>>  --show-domain-creator
>>                        Create a new virtual machine
> ...
>>
>> Не вижу ни "создать", ни "остановить"
> глаз замылился ;-)
эээ... и с каких это пор командой SHOW создаются какие-либо объекты???

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* Re: [devel] [Fwd: Пятая платформа: Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25 13:50                     ` Yury Yurevich
  2009-06-25 14:00                       ` Ivan Fedorov
@ 2009-06-25 14:04                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
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From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2009-06-25 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Twas brillig at 20:50:12 25.06.2009 UTC+07 when the.pythy@gmail.com did gyre and gimble:

 >> Не вижу ни "создать", ни "остановить"
 YY> глаз замылился ;-)

Это не "создать", это "показать диалог для накликивания параметров создания" :-P

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* Re: [devel] [JT] [Fwd: Пятая платформа:  Technology Preview]
  2009-06-25  9:42                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
  2009-06-25 10:35                     ` Anton Farygin
  2009-06-25 13:50                     ` Yury Yurevich
@ 2009-06-28  4:10                     ` Ildar Mulyukov
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ildar Mulyukov @ 2009-06-28  4:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: devel

On 25.06.2009 15:42:04, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
>  IM> virt-manager
> [dottedmag@vertex:~]% virt-manager --help
> Не вижу ни "создать", ни "остановить", а уж про модификацию IP и речи  
> не
> идёт.
> 
> И ещё vzctl enter!
> 
> </troll>

Your troll-mode is awesome!
:-)
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Ildar  Mulyukov


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