From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FUZZY_XPILL, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Message-ID: <48976CD2.6000309@altlinux.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:55:46 +0400 From: Anton Farygin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ALT Linux Team development discussions References: <4891718A.30404@altlinux.com> <20080804190638.GA24370@lks.home> <777d80610808041214g11955bfdx4d347f8b80a2c28f@mail.gmail.com> <48975EEC.2050601@altlinux.com> <20080804200935.GA32562@lks.home> <4897655B.9060909@altlinux.com> <777d80610808041328r4ad15883tfd338cedaf0dcbc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <777d80610808041328r4ad15883tfd338cedaf0dcbc9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [devel] =?koi8-r?b?STogc3F1YXNoZnNwcm9ncyDTIExaTUEg0M8g1c3PzN7B?= =?koi8-r?b?zsnA?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:56:00 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Aleksey Novodvorsky =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > 05.08.08, Anton Farygin =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): >> >> Konstantin A. 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