* [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
@ 2008-03-29 9:14 Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 14:49 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2008-03-29 15:35 ` [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Victor Forsyuk
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: devel
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Уважаемые коллеги,
Покопался в репозитарии с целью понять, на какие пакеты влияет
текущий draft Policy/SharedLibs, с целью сделать текущий тест
для репокопа более адекватным.
Пока разбирался только со статическими библиотеками вида (/usr)?/lib/lib*.a.
Критерий выбора пакетов -
1) имя не lib*-devel-static
2) для статической библиотеки в репозитории существует .so* аналог.
Прошу всех вникнуть, чтобы не возмущаться задним числом.
Речь ведь идет о предложении на полиси.
Вот результаты.
а) странно названные пакеты
libcryptopp-static-5.5.2-alt1.x86_64
libspf2-static-1.2.5-alt1.x86_64
libsrs_alt-static-1.0-alt1.x86_64
libstk-static-4.3.0-alt2.x86_64
libwxsvg-static-1.0b8-alt1.x86_64
libxprintutil-static-devel-1.0.1-alt1.x86_64
Предлагаю считать это ошибкой.
б) пакеты носят и .so, и .a
bioapi-1.2.2-alt3.x86_64
ejudge-2.3.7-alt1.x86_64
libstatgrab-0.14-alt5.x86_64
sphinxbase-0.3-alt1.x86_64
Похоже на ошибку. Зачем им .a?
c) случайные совпадения
antlr-2.7.7-alt2_1jpp1.7.x86_64
совпадение в /usr/lib64/libantlr.a с kde4sdk-libs-4.0.2-alt1.x86_64
(/usr/lib64/libantlr.so.4)
д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
libdumb_0.9.2-devel-0.9.2-alt2.x86_64
flow-tools-devel-0.68-alt3.1.x86_64
gtkglarea-devel-1.2.3-alt2.x86_64
hwinfo-devel-13.57-alt1.x86_64
libaal-devel-1.0.5-alt2.x86_64
libaal-minimal-devel-1.0.5-alt2.x86_64
libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64
libdnsres-devel-0.1a-alt1.x86_64
libedit-devel-2.10.20070831-alt1.x86_64
libespeak-devel-1.29-alt3.x86_64
libilbc-devel-0.6-alt3.x86_64
libmozjs-devel-1.8-alt1.20070725.x86_64
libncp-devel-2.2.6-alt6.x86_64
libnspr-devel-4.6.7-alt1.x86_64
libripmime-devel-1.4.0.7-alt2.x86_64
libripole-devel-0.2.0-alt2.x86_64
libsgutils-devel-1.23-alt2.x86_64
libtracker-devel-0.6.6-alt1.x86_64
libvolume_id-devel-108-alt2.x86_64
pmplib-devel-0.14-alt0.1.x86_64
proj-devel-4.5.0-alt1.x86_64
recode-devel-3.6-alt6.1.0.x86_64
reiser4progs-devel-1.0.5-alt2.x86_64
reiser4progs-minimal-devel-1.0.5-alt2.x86_64
serveez-devel-0.1.5-alt1.x86_64
w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64
IMHO, warning.
д) -devel-static, но не lib*
Вот тут советую подумать:
необходимо ли переименовывать такие пакеты?
Предлагаю высказаться всем заинтересованным.
ORBit-devel-static-0.5.17-alt3.x86_64
boost-datetime-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-filesystem-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-graph-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-iostreams-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-program-options-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-python-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-regex-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-serialization-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-signals-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-test-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-thread-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
boost-wave-devel-static-1.34.0-alt5.1.x86_64
bzlib-devel-static-1.0.5-alt2.x86_64
clanlib0.8-devel-static-0.8.0-alt4.x86_64
glib-devel-static-1.2.10-alt13.x86_64
glib2-devel-static-2.16.1-alt1.x86_64
glibc-devel-static-2.5.1-alt3.x86_64
guile16-devel-static-1.6.8-alt1.1.x86_64
guile18-devel-static-1.8.4-alt1.x86_64
iptables-devel-static-1.3.7-alt1.x86_64
lesstif-devel-static-0.95-alt2.x86_64
pam_userpass-devel-static-1.0.2-alt2.x86_64
plib-devel-static-1.8.4-alt7.x86_64
python-devel-static-2.5.1-alt1.x86_64
sqlite-devel-static-2.8.16-alt1.1.0.x86_64
urt-devel-static-3.1b-alt1.x86_64
zlib-devel-static-1.2.3-alt4.x86_64
Также в аттачменте полная таблица с указанием библиотек.
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Dr. Igor Vlasenko
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Topology Department
Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwtrans.a w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwtrans.so
w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwutils.a w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwutils.so
w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwxml.a w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwxml.so
w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwzip.a w3c-libwww-devel-5.4.1-alt0.1.1.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libwwwzip.so
zlib-devel-static-1.2.3-alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libz.a zlib-devel-1.2.3-alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libz.so
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 9:14 [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-29 14:49 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2008-03-29 15:11 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 15:35 ` [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Victor Forsyuk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2008-03-29 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:14:44AM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
[...]
> а) странно названные пакеты
> libcryptopp-static-5.5.2-alt1.x86_64
> libspf2-static-1.2.5-alt1.x86_64
> libsrs_alt-static-1.0-alt1.x86_64
> libstk-static-4.3.0-alt2.x86_64
> libwxsvg-static-1.0b8-alt1.x86_64
> libxprintutil-static-devel-1.0.1-alt1.x86_64
>
> Предлагаю считать это ошибкой.
Скорее всего это действительно ошибки.
> б) пакеты носят и .so, и .a
> bioapi-1.2.2-alt3.x86_64
> ejudge-2.3.7-alt1.x86_64
> libstatgrab-0.14-alt5.x86_64
> sphinxbase-0.3-alt1.x86_64
>
> Похоже на ошибку. Зачем им .a?
Если библиотеки одноимённые, то это ошибка.
> д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
> libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64
В libgdb-devel нет .so; надо проверить скрипт.
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ldv
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 14:49 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2008-03-29 15:11 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 15:18 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 15:27 ` Dmitry V. Levin
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:49:37PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
> > libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64
>
> В libgdb-devel нет .so; надо проверить скрипт.
она пересекается по именам с libbfd-devel.
libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libbfd.a libbfd-devel-2.17.50.0.6
-alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libbfd.so
libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libopcodes.a libbfd-devel-2.17.50.0.6
-alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libopcodes.so
Совпадение?
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Dr. Igor Vlasenko
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Topology Department
Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 15:11 ` Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-29 15:18 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 15:27 ` Dmitry V. Levin
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:11:31PM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:49:37PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
> > > libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64
> >
> > В libgdb-devel нет .so; надо проверить скрипт.
> она пересекается по именам с libbfd-devel.
Скрипт проверял наличие в репозитории библиотеки с таким же именем,
но *.so*.
Разбиение на классы я делал руками не скриптом,
оно несколько искуственное.
Мне хочется понять, что здесь вариант нормы, а что- патология,
чтобы еще подправить SharedLibs.
--
Dr. Igor Vlasenko
--------------------
Topology Department
Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 15:11 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 15:18 ` Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-29 15:27 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2008-03-29 20:00 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2008-03-29 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:11:31PM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:49:37PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
> > > libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64
> >
> > В libgdb-devel нет .so; надо проверить скрипт.
> она пересекается по именам с libbfd-devel.
>
> libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libbfd.a libbfd-devel-2.17.50.0.6
> -alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libbfd.so
> libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libopcodes.a libbfd-devel-2.17.50.0.6
> -alt4.x86_64 /usr/lib64/libopcodes.so
>
> Совпадение?
$ rpmquery -p --conflicts libgdb-devel-6.6-alt3.x86_64.rpm
libbfd-devel
libiberty-devel
Это та же самая libbfd, но другой версии (если к libbfd вообще
применимо понятие версии) и, возможно, пропатченная под gdb.
Так что это скорее исключение чем правило.
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 9:14 [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 14:49 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2008-03-29 15:35 ` Victor Forsyuk
2008-03-29 15:49 ` Slava Dubrovskiy
2008-03-29 20:03 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Victor Forsyuk @ 2008-03-29 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:14:44AM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
> Уважаемые коллеги,
>
> Покопался в репозитарии с целью понять, на какие пакеты влияет
> текущий draft Policy/SharedLibs, с целью сделать текущий тест
> для репокопа более адекватным.
> Пока разбирался только со статическими библиотеками вида (/usr)?/lib/lib*.a.
>
> Критерий выбора пакетов -
> 1) имя не lib*-devel-static
> 2) для статической библиотеки в репозитории существует .so* аналог.
>
> Прошу всех вникнуть, чтобы не возмущаться задним числом.
> Речь ведь идет о предложении на полиси.
>
> Вот результаты.
> а) странно названные пакеты
> libcryptopp-static-5.5.2-alt1.x86_64
> libspf2-static-1.2.5-alt1.x86_64
> libsrs_alt-static-1.0-alt1.x86_64
> libstk-static-4.3.0-alt2.x86_64
> libwxsvg-static-1.0b8-alt1.x86_64
> libxprintutil-static-devel-1.0.1-alt1.x86_64
Очевидно, ментейнеры были не в лучшем состоянии, когда писали спеки этим
пакетам... ;( Свои я поправлю, скорее всего удавлением статика.
> б) пакеты носят и .so, и .a
> bioapi-1.2.2-alt3.x86_64
> ejudge-2.3.7-alt1.x86_64
> libstatgrab-0.14-alt5.x86_64
> sphinxbase-0.3-alt1.x86_64
>
> Похоже на ошибку. Зачем им .a?
Это стопроцентная ошибка. И в трех из этих пакетов похоже еще и пакет с
исполняемым файлом и библиотека не разделены.
> д) -devel, тащат и .so, и .a
Статику нужно отключать. Если ментейнеры не ленивые, то не убивая совсем, а
обертывая в def_disable.
> Вот тут советую подумать:
> необходимо ли переименовывать такие пакеты?
> Предлагаю высказаться всем заинтересованным.
IMHO, не стоит.
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 15:35 ` [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Victor Forsyuk
@ 2008-03-29 15:49 ` Slava Dubrovskiy
2008-03-29 20:03 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Slava Dubrovskiy @ 2008-03-29 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>> libstk-static-4.3.0-alt2.x86_64
>> libwxsvg-static-1.0b8-alt1.x86_64
>>
> Очевидно, ментейнеры были не в лучшем состоянии, когда писали спеки этим
> пакетам... ;( Свои я поправлю, скорее всего удавлением статика.
>
Уже не помню в каком я был состоянии...
Исправлю.
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 15:27 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2008-03-29 20:00 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 21:28 ` [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-) Michael Shigorin
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From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 06:27:30PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> Так что это скорее исключение чем правило.
Поскольку всплывают разные тонкости, то IMHO,
в SharedLibs policy draft надо снизить категоричность
с "должен" на "рекомендуется".
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* Re: [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look
2008-03-29 15:35 ` [devel] SharedLibs draft: second look Victor Forsyuk
2008-03-29 15:49 ` Slava Dubrovskiy
@ 2008-03-29 20:03 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:35:53PM +0200, Victor Forsyuk wrote:
> > Вот тут советую подумать:
> > необходимо ли переименовывать такие пакеты?
> > Предлагаю высказаться всем заинтересованным.
>
> IMHO, не стоит.
И мне так кажется.
пакеты и так называются -devel-static,
граблей не создают, а в процессе переименования можно
добавить ошибок. Да и переименование несет с собой грабли.
предлагаю в SharedLibs policy draft
добавить оговорку об имеющихся пакетах.
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Dr. Igor Vlasenko
--------------------
Topology Department
Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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* [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 20:00 ` Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-29 21:28 ` Michael Shigorin
2008-03-29 21:48 ` Mikhail Gusarov
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From: Michael Shigorin @ 2008-03-29 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:00:32PM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
> > Так что это скорее исключение чем правило.
> Поскольку всплывают разные тонкости, то IMHO, в SharedLibs
> policy draft надо снизить категоричность с "должен" на
> "рекомендуется".
Вообще мне кажется, что если полиси у нас будут только страшные,
ужасные и полновесные -- их будут бояться что писать, что
соблюдать.
Лично мне зачастую вполне комфортны ненавязчивые драфты, при
чтении которых возникает благодарность к людям, которые всё это
потрудились зафиксировать в ясной форме и сэкономили много
времени на повторных раскопках. Больше драфтов, хороших
и кратких! ;-)
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---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
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* Re: [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 21:28 ` [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-) Michael Shigorin
@ 2008-03-29 21:48 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2008-03-29 22:23 ` Michael Shigorin
2008-03-29 22:41 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Mikhail Gusarov @ 2008-03-29 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
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Twas brillig at 23:28:53 29.03.2008 UTC+02 when Michael Shigorin did gyre and gimble:
MS> Лично мне зачастую вполне комфортны ненавязчивые драфты, при чтении
MS> которых возникает благодарность к людям, которые всё это
MS> потрудились зафиксировать в ясной форме и сэкономили много времени
MS> на повторных раскопках.
Которые не соблюдаются, ибо драфты.
Которые расплывчаты настолько, что их невозможно соблюдать.
Которые с первого взгляда неполны, а со второго - противоречивы, ибо их
поленились проверить на непротиворечивость.
Знакомая картинка?
MS> Больше драфтов, хороших и кратких! ;-)
Больше HOWTO, хороших и кратких. Ненавязчивость для policy - это
недостаток.
Policy - это правила игры: что можно ожидать от других, и что стоит
выполнять самому. Policy не убивают свободу, а наоборот, позволяют
планировать свою деятельность, не опасаясь, что кто-то из сообщества
взбрыкнёт или будет вести себя неадекватно.
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* Re: [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 21:48 ` Mikhail Gusarov
@ 2008-03-29 22:23 ` Michael Shigorin
2008-03-29 22:41 ` Igor Vlasenko
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From: Michael Shigorin @ 2008-03-29 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 04:48:44AM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> MS> Лично мне зачастую вполне комфортны ненавязчивые драфты, при чтении
> MS> которых возникает благодарность к людям, которые всё это
> MS> потрудились зафиксировать в ясной форме и сэкономили много времени
> MS> на повторных раскопках.
> Которые не соблюдаются, ибо драфты.
Почему? Я стараюсь соблюдать разумные драфты, даже без ствола
у виска.
> Которые расплывчаты настолько, что их невозможно соблюдать.
> Которые с первого взгляда неполны, а со второго -
> противоречивы, ибо их поленились проверить на
> непротиворечивость. Знакомая картинка?
Не-а. Это не драфты, тем более не разумные. А непонятно что.
> MS> Больше драфтов, хороших и кратких! ;-)
> Больше HOWTO, хороших и кратких.
Или так.
> Ненавязчивость для policy - это недостаток.
Эээ... "необязательность". Навязчивость -- недостаток для любого
документа, и в общем-то робота тоже.
> Policy - это правила игры: что можно ожидать от других, и что
> стоит выполнять самому. Policy не убивают свободу, а наоборот,
> позволяют планировать свою деятельность, не опасаясь, что
> кто-то из сообщества взбрыкнёт или будет вести себя
> неадекватно.
Поскольку полиси пишут (и исполняют или нарушают) люди, которые
заведомо не могут предусмотреть всего (либо заведомо могут
оказаться находчивей писавших формальный вид) -- предпочитаю
опираться не на полиси, а на совесть. При этом используя полиси
как кэш дискуссий, а HOWTO -- как кэш рассказов: во избежание
повторения того же самого.
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---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
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* Re: [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 21:48 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2008-03-29 22:23 ` Michael Shigorin
@ 2008-03-29 22:41 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 22:56 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-30 6:49 ` Alexey I. Froloff
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From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 04:48:44AM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> Twas brillig at 23:28:53 29.03.2008 UTC+02 when Michael Shigorin did gyre and gimble:
> Которые не соблюдаются, ибо драфты.
> Которые расплывчаты настолько, что их невозможно соблюдать.
> Которые с первого взгляда неполны, а со второго - противоречивы, ибо их
> поленились проверить на непротиворечивость.
> Знакомая картинка?
В данном случае речь о другом.
Что принесет слепое бездумное выполнение полиси?
Как оказалось,
1) часть пакетов не вписывется в полиси _И_
порождает грабли, которые уйдут, если пакет переделать
с учетом требований полиси.
Эту часть полиси нужно максимально конкретизировать.
Грабли здесь, здесь и здесь. Грабли, no pasaran!
2) часть пакетов не вписывется в полиси,
граблей при этом не несет. При этом героическое выполнение
полиси в виде массовых переименований вида
glibc->libglibc граблей заведомо добавит.
В этой части мы имеем дело уже скорее со стилем сборки.
Эту часть полиси нужно так и выделить, как рекомендацию
стиля.
Хорошие полиси
_требуют_ убирать ошибки,
но стиль только _рекомендуют_.
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Dr. Igor Vlasenko
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Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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* Re: [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 22:41 ` Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-29 22:56 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-30 6:49 ` Alexey I. Froloff
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From: Igor Vlasenko @ 2008-03-29 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions
MG> Которые не соблюдаются, ибо драфты.
категорическими высказываниями в полиси тоже не следует разбрасыаться.
Лоуренс Лессинг как аргумент против жестоких "антипиратских" законов
приводит то, что законы, запрещающие распространенные в обществе
действия, приводят к развращению совести.
Привычка переступать через непродуманное и несправедливое требование
закона снижает моральную планку чтобы переступить и другие требования
закона, уже не столь непродуманные и не столь несправедливые ;)
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Dr. Igor Vlasenko
--------------------
Topology Department
Institute of Math
Kiev, Ukraine
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* Re: [devel] [JT] Drafts ;-)
2008-03-29 22:41 ` Igor Vlasenko
2008-03-29 22:56 ` Igor Vlasenko
@ 2008-03-30 6:49 ` Alexey I. Froloff
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From: Alexey I. Froloff @ 2008-03-30 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
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* Igor Vlasenko <vlasenko@> [080330 00:48]:
> 2) часть пакетов не вписывется в полиси,
> граблей при этом не несет. При этом героическое выполнение
> полиси в виде массовых переименований вида
> glibc->libglibc граблей заведомо добавит.
Вообще-то "glibc", "glib2" и "zlib" уже содержат "lib", поэтому
префикс не нужен.
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Sir Raorn.
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