From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Message-ID: <47D03AE5.8050808@altlinux.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:41:41 +0300 From: Anton Farygin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070804) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ALT Linux Team development discussions References: <200803061214.16812.rlz@altlinux.org> <200803061531.19913.rlz@altlinux.org> <878x0w81xh.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> <200803061627.52725.rlz@altlinux.org> <874pbk7yjl.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> <47D0142A.9000009@altlinux.com> <87mypb7rqg.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> In-Reply-To: <87mypb7rqg.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [devel] =?utf-8?b?0JjQvdC40YbQuNCw0LvQuNC30LDRhtC40Y8g0YHQuNGB?= =?utf-8?b?0YLQtdC80Ys=?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:41:59 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Mikhail Gusarov =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > Twas brillig at 18:56:26 06.03.2008 UTC+03 when Anton Farygin did gyre = and gimble: >=20 > >> for i in `seq 1 1000`; do service httpd2 stop & service httpd2 star= t & done > >> =D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82 =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82= =D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=B2 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=81=D0=BA= =D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=BC =D1=81=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE= =D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8. >=20 > AF> =D0=B0 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC ? >=20 > =D0=92=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5. =D0=A3 sysvinit =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=8F= =D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0. >=20 > >> 1. =D0=9E=D0=B1=D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8= =D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B1 =D0=BF=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B= =D1=82=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC =D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=B0= (=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=8C wifi-=D1=81=D0=B5= =D1=82=D1=8C - > >> =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=8F=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE= =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=91 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B0=D0=BD= =D0=BE). >=20 > AF> =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=B5= =D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B7= =D0=B8=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80= =D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81. >=20 > >> 2. =D0=9E=D0=B1=D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8= =D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B1 =D0=BF=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B= =D1=82=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC =D0=BE=D1=82 =D1=8E=D0=B7=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0 (=D1= =81=D0=BC. per-user gpg-agent =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 X11 =D0=B2 MacOSX) >=20 > AF> =D0=AD=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5.. =D0=B2 =D0=BD=D0= =B0=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=BC =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5 - KDE/Gnome. >=20 > =D0=92=D0=BE=D1=82-=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=82. 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