* [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
@ 2005-02-18 23:59 Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
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From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-18 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
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"For all those people who think static linking is good.
Read and then think again."
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Sergey Y. Afonin @ 2005-02-19 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list On Saturday 19 February 2005 03:59, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > Read and then think again." > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html Типа на год отстали ? :-) -- С уважением, Сергей Афонин asy@altlinux.ru ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin @ 2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > Read and then think again." > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html Чё-то я этого не догнал: "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. Rgds, Anton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 515 bytes --] On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > > Read and then think again." > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > Чё-то я этого не догнал: > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. Да, в отличие от статических. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > > > Read and then think again." > > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > > Чё-то я этого не догнал: > > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." > > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. > > Да, в отличие от статических. А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе? Rgds, Anton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-02-21 16:25 ` OFF: [devel] " Dimitry V. Ketov 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 851 bytes --] On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > > > > Read and then think again." > > > > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > > > Чё-то я этого не догнал: > > > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." > > > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. > > > > Да, в отличие от статических. > > А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе? Это Drepper не в курсе? У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха. -- ldv [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin 2005-02-21 16:25 ` OFF: [devel] " Dimitry V. Ketov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 05:22:36PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > > > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > > > > > Read and then think again." > > > > > > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > > > > Чё-то я этого не догнал: > > > > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." > > > > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. > > > > > > Да, в отличие от статических. > > > > А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе? > > Это Drepper не в курсе? > У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха. Ничего не понял %) Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно рекомендует не линковаться статикой? Rgds, Anton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin 2005-02-21 16:00 ` [devel] [JT] " Michael Shigorin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Anton Farygin @ 2005-02-21 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list Anton D. Kachalov wrote: >On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 05:22:36PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > >>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: >> >> >>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"For all those people who think static linking is good. >>>>>>Read and then think again." >>>>>> >>>>>>http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Чё-то я этого не догнал: >>>>>"tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work." >>>>>Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Да, в отличие от статических. >>>> >>>> >>>А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе? >>> >>>Это Drepper не в курсе? >>>У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха. >>> >>> >Ничего не понял %) >Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно рекомендует не линковаться статикой? > > > Mouse, ты что пил/курил/ел ? Rgds, Rider ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [devel] [JT] Re: I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin @ 2005-02-21 16:00 ` Michael Shigorin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Michael Shigorin @ 2005-02-21 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 06:54:08PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote: > >>>Это Drepper не в курсе? > >>>У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха. > >Ничего не понял %) Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно > >рекомендует не линковаться статикой? > Mouse, ты что пил/курил/ел ? http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9766 ? ;-) -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* OFF: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-21 16:25 ` Dimitry V. Ketov 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Dimitry V. Ketov @ 2005-02-21 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list В fortune! Dmitry V. Levin пишет: > Это Drepper не в курсе? > У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [JT] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin 2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-21 17:14 ` Alexey Morozov 2005-02-22 10:35 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Alexey Morozov @ 2005-02-21 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 242 bytes --] On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > Read and then think again." > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html Life is evil. Necessary evil. [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [devel] [JT] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful 2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov @ 2005-02-22 10:35 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Mikhail Zabaluev @ 2005-02-22 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ALT Devel discussion list В Пнд, 21/02/2005 в 23:14 +0600, Alexey Morozov пишет: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > "For all those people who think static linking is good. > > Read and then think again." > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > Life is evil. Necessary evil. Will they ever learn? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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