From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Message-ID: <41B4713C.8030503@altlinux.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:48:28 +0300 From: Anton Farygin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040511) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: devel@altlinux.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020409000604050800020508" Cc: Subject: [devel] [Fwd: Re: Elektrified X.org released (was: X configuration paradigm, and a proposal)] X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:48:55 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020409000604050800020508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI. Теперь модно менять конфигурацию X-ов. Rgds, Rider --------------020409000604050800020508 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: Elektrified X.org released (was: X configuration paradigm, and a proposal)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: Elektrified X.org released (was: X configuration paradigm, and a proposal)" Return-Path: X-Original-To: rider@altlinux.com Delivered-To: rider@master.altlinux.ru Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (freedesktop.org [131.252.208.82]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108AE5791 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:44:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A1C9EA5F; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: xorg@freedesktop.org Delivered-To: xorg@freedesktop.org Received: from mailhub.hp.com (mailhub.hp.com [192.151.27.10]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1389EA1A for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.0.0.195 (h005018015b26.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.218.46.90]) by mailhub.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FE72711D; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:30:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Gettys To: Alex Deucher In-Reply-To: References: <1101836596.1676.31.camel@davidz> <1101839022.3783.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1101843846.25617.116.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, HP Labs, HP Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <1102343415.22872.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora Core , "Timothy D. Witham" , Discuss issues related to the xorg tree , xdg-list , Elektra Subject: Re: Elektrified X.org released (was: X configuration paradigm, and a proposal) X-BeenThere: xorg@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discuss issues related to the xorg tree List-Id: Discuss issues related to the xorg tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xorg-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Errors-To: xorg-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 15:52 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:44:08 +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Maw, 2004-11-30 at 18:23, Jim Gettys wrote: > > > David, > > > > > > I agree with you and Kristian and I have started work, specifically on > > > the input system side to do exactly what you suggest. Similar > > > work ought to be done someday for the screens themselves (hotplug being > > > a reality even for screens; today with PCMCIA and PCI express is just > > > beginning to ship). > > > > Mobility Electronics have been shipping cardbus hotplug video for about > > 5 or 6 years now (E1000V). They make fun toys for this sort of testing > > and are cheap on ebay generally 8) > > > > > > For that matter, AGP and even PCI video cards have been able to change > resolution, colordepth, type and number of outputs, etc. on the fly > for even longer. > Resolution we now can handle using randr. Depth has been a real problem: we believe it would break most existing applications (particularly Xt or Motif applications, if we had tried to do it the way we first envisioned in randr, and then backed away from. But composite makes depth switching easy: the applications don't have their depth changed out from under them, and only the compositing manager has to do anything. So we should be able to handle this pretty well once composite is the "normal" way most people use X. We have lots of work to do for handling outputs and for mode setting in general. But this should be (mostly) something that most applications don't have to care about. - Jim _______________________________________________ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg --------------020409000604050800020508--