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=D0=92 Fri, 21 Feb 2025 23:56:25 +0300
Paul Wolneykien <manowar@altlinux.org> =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:

> =D0=92 Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:13:55 +0300
> =D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B2=D1=8A =D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8A=
 <majioa@yandex.ru> =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>=20
> > =C2=A0
> > =C2=A0
> > ----------------
> > =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: devel@lists.altlinux.org (devel@lists.altlinu=
x.org);
> > =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: [devel] =D0=9E=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BB=
=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 protobuf;
> > 21.02.2025, 12:44, "Anton Farygin" <rider@basealt.ru>:
> >  =20
> > > On 20.02.2025 19:37, Paul Wolneykien wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=D0=97=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D0=B2=
=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8F =D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=
=D0=BA=D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=
=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 =
=D0=BF=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B5 =20
> > >> =C2=A0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE libabseil =D0=B8 =D0=B5=
=D1=89=D1=91 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D1=85 =D1=81=
=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=B9. =D0=A1=D0=B5=D0=B3=
=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=8F =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D0=BE=
=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C
> > >> =C2=A0=D0=B8 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =
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=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BB=D0=BE. =20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81 grpc =20
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=D0=B3=D0=BE 29=D0=B9 =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8A protobuf.... =20
>=20
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=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8. =D0=9D=D0=BE =D1=82=D1=83=D1=82
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=BE=D0=BC=D1=83 =D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=83=D0=
=BF=D0=B8=D0=BB.
>=20
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=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=81 =D0=B7=D0=B0=
=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=B4=
=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C
> -Wno-error=3Dreturn-type):

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