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On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 14:35:37 +0300
Arseny Maslennikov <arseny@altlinux.org> wrote:

> Hi!
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=B7=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=8F p11.
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=87=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B8 ALT Linux Team, =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8
> =D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 p11? =D0=98=D0=
=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B8, =D1=87=D1=
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=81=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81 Sisyphus
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=BC=D1=8B?
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=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5 =D0=B2
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=D0=9A=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B5 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B0 usr, =D0=B2 s=
ystemd =D0=B3=D1=80=D1=8F=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B5=D1=89=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D0=B4=
=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5

https://www.phoronix.com/news/systemd-254-rc1

Systemd has also deprecated support for System-V service scripts and
will be removed in a future release. All software moving forward should
have native systemd unit files rather than legacy System V scripts.=20

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