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=D0=92 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:31:37 +0300
"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org> =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:

> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 02:55:57PM +0300, Paul Wolneykien wrote:
> > =D0=92 Sun, 26 Dec 2021 19:03:36 +0700, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =
=D0=9C=D0=B8=D0=B4=D1=8E=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
> > > 26.12.2021 16:16, Dmitry V. Levin =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
> > > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 10:55:26AM +0700, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D0=BD =D0=9C=D0=B8=D0=B4=D1=8E=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 wrote:
> > > >> =D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=
=D0=B5
> > > >>
> > > >> =D0=9D=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=
=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=B8=D0=B7 startup =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=
=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=92=D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=BA =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=
=B5=D1=80=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B5 =D1=
=81
> > > >> systemd =D0=BF=D1=8B=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=81=D1=8C =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=
=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C startup =D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=
=D0=B0=D1=8E: rpm -ev startup
> > > >> error: Failed dependencies:
> > > >> 	/etc/rc.d/init.d/clock is needed by (installed)
> > > >> alterator-datetime-4.6.8-alt1.x86_64 /etc/sysconfig/i18n is
> > > >> needed by (installed) menu-2.1.41-alt22.qa1.x86_64
> > > >> /etc/sysconfig/i18n is needed by (installed)
> > > >> installer-feature-desktop-other-fs-stage2-0.7.7-alt1.noarch
> > > >> /etc/sysconfig/system is needed by (installed)
> > > >> rpm-helper-0.24.17-alt2_5.noarch
> > > >=20
> > > > =D0=98=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0=BA=D0=
=B0=D0=BA =D0=B4=D0=B2=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=
=B8=D1=85 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 =D0=B8=D0=B7 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=
=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=
=B7=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C
> > > > =D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=
=D1=8B=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=
=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B5.
> > >=20
> > > =D0=94=D0=B0 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=
=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=82=
 =D1=8D=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B8 =
=D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB.
> > > rpm-helper =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD torque-mom, =D0=B0 =D1=82=
=D0=BE=D1=82 torque. =D0=90 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=
=B5 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0-=D1=82=D0=BE
> > > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=81=D1=8F to=
rque =D1=83=D0=B6 =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8E.
> > >=20
> > > >> =D0=9B=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D1=83 n-=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=87=
=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=BE=
=D1=82=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=81=
=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=B8
> > > >> =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=B8.
> > > >=20
> > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/clock - =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D0=
=BE=D0=BD=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B3, =D0=B0 =D1=83 systemd =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B5=
=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=8F=D0=BA=D0=B0
> > > > =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=B8 =D1=
=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B8.  =
=D0=A1=D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D0=BD=
=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=
=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81
> > > > =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B8, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=
=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=BC =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D1=8B =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=
=B8 =D1=84=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=BB=D1=8B.
> > >=20
> > > =D0=9F=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D0=BD=D0=BE. =D0=97=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=
=D0=B8=D1=82, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C=
 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=8B.
> >=20
> >   =D0=90 =D0=BF=D0=BE-=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83, =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=
=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=
=B8=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C install check. =D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=82=
=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE
> > =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 alterator-datetime =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B8=
=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BC =D1=81 =
=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=BD=D0=B8 =
=D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=83
> > =D0=B8=D0=B7 =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 =D1=81=D0=
=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D0=
=BC=D1=8B =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC. =D0=9D=D0=
=BE =D1=81=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B0 =D0=B5=D0=
=B3=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5
> > =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B8=D0=
=B7-=D0=B7=D0=B0 =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B5=D0=B3=
=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 =D0=B0=D0=B1=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BA=
=D1=82=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=8E
> > =D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=83=D1=8E =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=
=BC=D1=83. =D0=9C=D0=B0=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B8=D0=BC=D1=83=D0=BC, =D0=BD=D0=B0 =
=D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=82=D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B5=
=D1=82 =E2=80=94 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE warning, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=
=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA
> > =D0=BD=D0=B5 error.
> >=20
> >   =D0=AF =D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=8E, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D1=
=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B0=D0=B1=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=
=BD=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=
=B0 =D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=
=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C
> > =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D0=
=BE =D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5 =D0=
=B4=D0=B2=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=
=BA=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85, =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=
=B8=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D1=8B=D1=85 =D0=BA
> > =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC =D1=83=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=
=BE=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC:
> >=20
> >   1) =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=
=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=
=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=83=D1=82=D1=81=
=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 systemd;
>=20
> systemd-sysvinit
>=20
> >   2) =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=
=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=
=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=83=D1=82=D1=81=
=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 sysvinit.
> >=20
> >   =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B8 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC, =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8=
 =D1=82=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=BF=
=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82 =
=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=D0=B8, =D1=82=
=D0=BE =D1=81=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C
> > =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=B2 =D1=86=D0=B5=D0=
=BB=D0=BE=D0=BC =D1=83=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9. =D0=95=D1=
=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=
=BE=D1=88=D1=91=D0=BB =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=
=B8=D0=BD =D0=B8=D0=B7
> > =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2, =D1=82=D0=BE =
=D1=81=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=
=D1=80=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=B2 =D1=86=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=
=83=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BA=D1=80=D0=
=BE=D0=BC=D0=B5
> > =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =E2=80=94 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=
=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B6=
=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=85=D0=BE=
=D0=B4=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=
=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C
> > =D1=82=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B=D0=B9 =D0=
=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA systemd-only (sysv-only), =
=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=8F=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE
> > =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C systemd =D0=B8=D0=BB=
=D0=B8 sysvinit =D0=B2 =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE Requires. =D0=98 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=
=BD=D0=B5=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F
> > =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2, =D1=83 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=
=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B=D1=85 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B1=
=D0=BE=D1=80 =D1=81=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD, =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D0=
=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F install
> > check =D0=B2 =D1=86=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B6=D0=
=BD=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=
=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=
=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE
> > =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D1=
=8E=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=
=B0 1) =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 2).
>=20
> =D0=98=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B0=
=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0. :)

  =D0=9D=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=BE=D1=
=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=
=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C. =D0=90 =D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BC=D0=BE=
=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F, =
=D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE
=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=B5 =
=D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=BD=
=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =
=D0=B2=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=B0.