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From: "Alexey V. Vissarionov" <gremlin@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] RFC: girar: optimize rebuild
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:31:43 +0300
Message-ID: <20200411233143.GC4490@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200411133631.daac861f97979c67511cf3ef@altlinux.org>

On 2020-04-11 13:36:31 +0300, Andrey Savchenko wrote:

 >> The first part of rebuilt packages optimization for girar.
 >> It introduces pkg_identity() and simple optimization of the
 >> rebuilt sourcerpm.
 >> pkg_identity() takes RPM package and returns a value called
 >> package identity, a hash of subset of RPM package header.
 >> That subset is the entire header without some nonessential
 >> artifacts like buildhost, buildtime, header hashsum, etc.
 > I see two problems with proposed approach:
 > 1) It assumes there will be not pkg_identity hash collisions.
 > This is wrong. They may occur sooner or later and the code
 > *must* correctly deal with such collisions.

The solution is well known: prefix the hash with a time_t value
to let it grow monotonously while still being strictly dependent
on sensitive data.

Whether we'd face a hash collision, we could check whether the
timestamps differ significantly.

 > 2) The hash function choise — sha256 ­— is very unfortunate:
 > it has longer digest than sha1, but otherwise is vulnerable
 > to the same attack; so right now it is still marginally secure,
 > but it will not last long.
We don't really need any cryptographic-grade hash function here:
all we need is just a checksum with a good distribution to detect
whether something had changed - obviously enough, nobody would
try to build and exploit collisions here. Said that, we can use
almost any polynomial.

 > Moreover sha256 is quite slow.

SHA2 is implemented in the hardware in some modern CPUs, so it's
quite fast there.

 > It is better to use newer generation of hash functions, e.g.
 > blake2b based on the chacha stream cipher.

Both are still quite marginal... but, once again, we should not
care of that too much - any hash function would do the job. Even
if we'd switch to another polynomial in the future.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-11 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-10 23:10 Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-10 23:10 ` [devel] [PATCH 1/2] gb/gb-sh-functions: introduce pkg_identity() Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-13 18:01   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-04-13 19:32     ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-10 23:10 ` [devel] [PATCH 2/2] gb: optimize rebuilt srpm if its identity is equal to identity of srpm in the repo Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-11 11:29   ` Alexey Tourbin
2020-04-14 16:42     ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-16 21:51       ` Alexey Tourbin
2020-04-17 13:54         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-04-20  9:05           ` [devel] stopping a cascade of rebuilds Alexey Tourbin
2020-04-23 19:21             ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-23 20:54               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-04-27  5:38               ` Alexey Tourbin
2020-04-20  8:36         ` [devel] [PATCH 2/2] gb: optimize rebuilt srpm if its identity is equal to identity of srpm in the repo Alexey Tourbin
2020-04-11 10:36 ` [devel] RFC: girar: optimize rebuild Andrey Savchenko
2020-04-11 15:33   ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-11 23:31   ` Alexey V. Vissarionov [this message]
2020-04-14 14:57     ` Andrey Savchenko
2020-04-14 16:20       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-11 11:04 ` Gleb Fotengauer-Malinovskiy
2020-04-11 15:21   ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-04-11 16:41     ` Gleb Fotengauer-Malinovskiy

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