From: "Alexey V. Vissarionov" <gremlin@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] rngd vs haveged vs crng (khwrngd)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 13:56:14 +0300
Message-ID: <20190531105614.GD27835@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4041b3c1-b134-9720-0f01-1a2527ed1721@basealt.ru>
On 2019-05-31 09:50:09 +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
>>> из двух зол - какое выбрать - Intel RDRAND или TPM ?
>> Оба одновременно: при наличии в системе хотя бы одного
>> доверенного источника энтропии они не смогут нагадить
>> даже при всем желании(*), ибо ложка стохастического
>> говна превращает бочку детерминированного меда в бочку
>> стохастического говна:-)
> ну собственно rngd так и делает - замешивает все существующие
> источники энтропии в один.
Энтропия нужна _до_ запуска init.
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Alexey V. Vissarionov
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2019-04-25 10:29 [devel] rngd vs haveged vs crng Konstantin Lepikhov
2019-04-25 19:17 ` Andrey Savchenko
2019-04-25 19:21 ` Denis Medvedev
2019-04-25 19:26 ` Michael Shigorin
2019-04-26 0:01 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-04-26 0:19 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-04-26 4:43 ` Anton Farygin
2019-04-26 0:51 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-04-26 12:45 ` Mikhail Efremov
2019-04-26 22:46 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-04-27 4:17 ` Denis Medvedev
2019-04-27 5:37 ` Ivan A. Melnikov
2019-05-22 23:08 ` Alexey Shabalin
2019-05-23 4:37 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-27 11:59 ` Michael Shigorin
2019-05-27 14:18 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-28 0:08 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-05-27 23:53 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-05-28 5:08 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-28 8:57 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-05-28 10:51 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-29 8:44 ` Anton Gorlov
2019-05-29 8:46 ` Anton Gorlov
2019-05-29 10:52 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-30 1:11 ` [devel] rngd vs haveged vs crng (khwrngd) Vitaly Chikunov
2019-05-30 4:39 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-30 5:16 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-30 16:40 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-05-30 16:51 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-30 17:20 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-05-31 10:51 ` Andrey Savchenko
2019-05-31 6:50 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-31 10:56 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov [this message]
2019-05-31 16:58 ` Anton Farygin
2019-08-30 23:06 ` Alexey Shabalin
2019-08-31 6:36 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-08-31 12:35 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-08-31 14:47 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-08-31 15:42 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-02 21:31 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-02 22:25 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 5:58 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 6:02 ` Anton Farygin
2019-09-03 8:49 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 19:52 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-03 20:01 ` Andrey Savchenko
2019-09-03 20:56 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-04 2:22 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 23:31 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 8:49 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 9:54 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 10:01 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 10:29 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 10:35 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 10:38 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 10:46 ` Michael Shigorin
2019-09-03 7:02 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-03 8:49 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-03 19:46 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-03 23:33 ` Paul Wolneykien
2019-09-04 3:36 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-20 10:47 ` Sergey Bolshakov
2019-09-20 12:23 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-21 0:33 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-03 7:28 ` Aleksei Nikiforov
2019-09-03 8:25 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-02 23:59 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 7:37 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-03 10:12 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-03 20:51 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-08-31 7:30 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-31 14:12 ` [devel] rngd vs haveged vs crng Anton Gorlov
2019-05-31 14:12 ` Anton Gorlov
2019-05-30 17:54 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-05-31 5:08 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-31 11:01 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-05-31 17:01 ` Anton Farygin
2019-05-28 0:53 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2019-09-17 20:08 ` Nikolai Kostrigin
2019-09-17 21:51 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2019-09-17 23:29 ` Leonid Krivoshein
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