From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:08:30 +0400 From: Mikhail Efremov To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Message-ID: <20140926120830.3170f3cd@sem-notebook> In-Reply-To: <20140923140824.5df21da2@sem-notebook> References: <20140901142816.GA23696@mw.mithraen.ru> <20140902164507.263fe638@sem.office.altlinux.ru> <20140919185128.7c1139c5@sem.office.altlinux.ru> <20140922134028.266f725a@sem-notebook> <20140923140824.5df21da2@sem-notebook> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.21; x86_64-alt-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [devel] polkit without systemd X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:08:54 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:08:24 +0400 Mikhail Efremov wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:40:28 +0400 Mikhail Efremov wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:15:22 +0400 Alexey Shabalin wrote: > > > 19 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2014 =D0=B3., 18:= 51 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C= Mikhail Efremov > > > > =D0=9D=D0=B5=D1=82, =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0= =B5 =D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0= =BC =D1=80=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=81=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0= =B8 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=85=D0=BE. > > > > =D0=92 systemd-logind =D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC = =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=8F=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BD= =D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BC systemd. > > > > =D0=9D=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B9=D0=B4=D1=8F dbus-=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82= =D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81 systemd =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0= =B6=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=82=D1= =81=D1=8F, =D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=B8 > > > > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D0= =B0=D1=89=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BA systemd =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 = =D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE= =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8F =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F > > > > =D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=83=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B9 = =D1=81 cgroups, =D0=B0 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F = =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F shutdown/sleep. > > > > =D0=9D=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=82= =D1=8C, =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=81 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0= =B8=D0=BC =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1= =82=D1=8C. > > > > =D0=9A =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=B6=D0=B5, =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B7= =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8E =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=81 =D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB= =D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BC= =D0=B8 =D0=B8=D0=B7 > > > > systemd-services, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F logind dbus-=D0= =B0=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8F - =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1= =85=D0=B0=D1=8F =D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=8F. > > > > =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BC=D1=83=D0=BC =D0= =B2 Xfce =D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=87=D0=B8, =D0=BF=D1= =80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8F=D1=8E=D1=89=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BB=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B5 > > > > dbus-=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D0=B0 l= ogind. =D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC= logind =D0=B2=D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82= =D0=B8=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F, > > > > =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C= =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0= =BE =D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F, =D0=BD=D0=B5 = =D1=81=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 (=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=B6=D0=B5 > > > > shutdown/sleep), =D1=82=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE= =D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B5= =D1=82 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B5= =D0=B4=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=8E > > > > =D1=83=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C dbus-=D0=B0=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=B8= =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8E =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F logind =D0=B8 =D0=B2=D0= =B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0= =BA=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0 > > > > =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 logind= =D0=B2 pam_systemd, =D0=B0 =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D1= =81=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F-=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA-=D1=82=D0= =BE > > > > =D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=B3= =D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 = systemd - =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1= =8F =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=87=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 > > > > =D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82-=D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=82. > > >=20 > > > =D0=94=D0=B0, =D1=83 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F =D1=8D=D0=BA=D1=81=D0= =BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8B =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0= =B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C. =D0=9F=D1=80= =D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8B =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD= =D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 > > > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BF= =D1=80=D0=BE systemd-shim. =D0=91=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BF=D1=80=D0= =BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1=82=D0= =BA=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5 > > > =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F? > >=20 > > =D0=9C=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=A2=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D1=8F = =D0=B1=D1=8B, =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B6=D0=B4=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D1= =8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82 systemd-shim > > =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D0= =B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=80=D0= =BE=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE. =D0=9D=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0= =BE=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0= =BA=D0=BE =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BE > > =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B4=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0= =B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F systemd. =D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=86=D0=B8= =D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD= =D1=8B =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B, =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB= =D0=B8 > > =D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=83=D0= =B6=D0=B8=D1=82 dbus-=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81= systemd =D0=B8 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=85=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BE=D1=82 sys= temd-shim > > =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0= =BE, =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=BC= =D0=B5=D0=B5=D1=82. >=20 > =D0=AF, =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0= =BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BF=D0= =B5=D1=88=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0= =9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=83 - =D1=80=D0=B0=D1=81= =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B6=D1=83 =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C. =D0=A3 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5= =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82= =D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE. =D0=92 =D0=A1=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=84 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0= =BA=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D1= =8E, =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D0=B5=D1=89=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BE= =D0=BF=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C. =D0=9D=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D1=86=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B3=D0=BB= =D1=8F=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82 =D0=B2=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=80=D0=B0= =D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82= =D0=BE=D0=BC. --=20 WBR, Mikhail Efremov