From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa.local.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=O0Ih2xKfHXwSMNhEp4EbdgmBqzgIwYGCyRSbI6wxkVI=; b=fcPnI3T+dmJSMN0g/CMBUEZXk0JeHLd3RHnQBij0VDR/1BRfuJDcuAVGsBoQvy3hht nucYNUyBT4sxdbGIU2u7xexFYbB8VzpPE5DOGWzpk3DpavADKpUd1g0yngGkVZQKjUuG ZEtiO+uN7ewWLLjL82X5xfKu0AJf2oWDBJ7eL3yyPIW4cMJA0YndcJcFLpOTTvd8kM45 aynKIMRfpFo3OAoKsc3FwCuzG2qYoO0j/AdQxF7DW7fMbUa+qyArMyPhHbxOyftLTHqa UtDNUJiNV/AIuGWx/HEegNPUFd/FTMQ+yJW1bU8y55dsqgPIqO1HXsyceFG9GfLlzDFX /aDw== X-Received: by 10.152.236.43 with SMTP id ur11mr5821827lac.74.1407189754228; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Denis Smirnov Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 02:02:31 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?5MXOydMg883J0s7P1w==?= To: devel@lists.altlinux.org Message-ID: <20140804220231.GA23912@mw.mithraen.ru> Mail-Followup-To: devel@lists.altlinux.org References: <20140804193927.GA4453@mw.mithraen.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [devel] systemd-215 X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 22:02:42 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 01:19:04AM +0400, Alexey Shabalin wrote: >> ldconfig.service =CE=D5=D6=C5=CE =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =D7 =D3=CC=D5=DE=C1= =C5 =CF=D4=D3=D5=D4=D3=D4=D7=C9=D1 ld.so.cache. =F7=CF =D7=D3=C5=C8 >> =C9=CE=D9=C8 =D3=CC=D5=DE=C1=D1=C8 =D5 =CE=C1=D3 =DC=D4=C9=CD =DA=C1=CE= =C9=CD=C1=C0=D4=D3=D1 filetrigger'=D9. =F4=C1=CB =DE=D4=CF =C5=CD=D5 =D7=CD= =C5=D3=D4=CF >> ConfigtionNeedsUpdate =CE=D5=D6=CE=CF =D0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D1=D4=D8 =CF=D4= =D3=D5=D4=D3=D4=D7=C9=C5 /etc/ld.so.cache. > =FC=D4=CF=D4 =D3=C5=D2=D7=C9=D3 =D4=CF=D6=C5 =D0=D2=C5=C4=CE=C1=DA=CE=C1= =DE=C5=CE =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =C4=CC=D1 =D0=C5=D2=D7=CF=C7=CF =DA=C1=D0=D5= =D3=CB=C1 =D3=C9=D3=D4=C5=CD=D9. =E5=D3=CC=C9 =C2=D9 =DC=D4=CF =C2=D9=CC=CF =D4=C1=CB, =D4=C1=CD =C2=D9=CC= =CF =C2=D9 =D7=CD=C5=D3=D4=CF: ConditionNeedsUpdate=3D/etc =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CE=CF: ConditionPathExists=3D!/etc/ld.so.cache =F3=CF=C2=D3=D4=D7=C5=CE=CE=CF =DC=D4=CF =C9=DA=CD=C5=CE=C5=CE=C9=C5 =D1 = =C9 =D0=D2=C5=C4=CC=C1=C7=C1=C0 =D3=C4=C5=CC=C1=D4=D8. 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