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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:41:50 +0400 Sergey Bolshakov wrote:
> >>>>> "Alexey" =3D=3D Alexey Shabalin <a.shabalin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@=
public.gmane.org> writes:
>=20
>  > 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2014 =D0=B3., 21:39 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=
=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C Mikhail Efremov  =
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB:
>  >> Hello!
>  >>=20
>  >> =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=8F=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=
=D1=81=D1=8C, systemd =D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=
=BC=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=
=B2=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82 loopback =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=
=D0=B9=D1=81,
>  >> =D0=BA =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D0=B2 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=88 etcnet. =D0=92 =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=BB=D1=
=8C=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=
=BA=D0=B8
>  >> =D0=B8=D0=B7 /etc/net/ifaces/lo =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=
=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=8E=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=
=D0=BC. =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=80=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BA =D0=
=BF=D0=BE =D1=83=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8E
>  >> =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BD=
=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=B2 systemd =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=
=83=D1=81=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BE. =D0=AF =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=
=B4=D0=B5=D1=8F=D0=BB=D1=81=D1=8F, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B2 210
>  >> =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=
=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=
=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=B8, =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7 =D1=83=D0=B6 =D1=82=D0=
=B0=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D1=83 =D1=81=D0=
=B5=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BA=D1=80=D1=83=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=
=B8,
>  >> =D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB=
=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B3=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=
=D0=B4=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5, =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=
=BA =D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C.
>  >> =D0=A1 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=BE =D1=87=D1=82=
=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=
=80=D0=B8=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8B =D1=8F =D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B6=D1=83 =D1=82=D0=
=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B5:
>  >> - =D0=9E=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=
 =D0=B2 systemd. =D0=9F=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=87 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=
=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=
=B0=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=
=BA=D0=BE=D0=B5
>  >> =D1=82=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=
=D0=B5=D1=82.
>  >> - =D0=A1=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=
=D1=8B=D0=BB=D1=8C =D0=B2 =D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B4=D0=B5 service-=D1=84=D0=B0=D0=
=B9=D0=BB=D0=B0, =D0=B2 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=BE=
=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C lo =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4
>  >> =D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC network.service. =D0=9D=D1=
=83 =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=BE =D0=B2 network.servic=
e =D0=B2
>  >> ExecStartPre.
>  >> - =D0=94=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B2 etcnet =D0=
=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9-=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D1=8C =D0=BF=D0=
=B0=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=80 CONFIG_FORCE =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F
>  >> =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=
=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=B8 =D0=
=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D0=B0 =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=
=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D0=BD =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BF=
=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82. =D0=9D=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0
>  >> =D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81 =D0=B2=D1=81=
=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=
=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B7=D0=B0=
=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BC service
>  >> network start. =D0=A5=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=8F =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=
=82 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=81=D1=82=
=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=88=D0=BD=D0=BE.
>  >>=20
>  >> =D0=92=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81 =D0=B2 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=
=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=8C =D0=BA shaba@ =D0=
=B8 sbolshakov@, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =
=D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BC?
>  >>=20
>=20
>  > =D0=A7=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8F,  =
=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8E =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=
=D1=88=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=83=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C.
>  > =D0=A1=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=
=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D1=83 lo =
=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C =D1=85=
=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=88=D0=BE. =D0=9E=D0=BD=D0=B0 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=
=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B2
>  > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=B0=D1=85 namespace=
(netns), =D0=B8 nspawn. =D0=92=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =
=D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B9=
=D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81 =D0=BD=D0=B5
>  > =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=B5=D1=82, =D0=BD=
=D0=BE =D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=
=D1=88=D0=BE.
>  > =D0=9C=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B5 CONFIG_F=
ORCE =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F etcnet?
>=20
> =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B6=D0=B4=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D1=80=D0=B5=D1=
=88=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=
=D1=88=D0=B5, =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=8B =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=
=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D1=83=D1=8F=D1=81=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C, =D0=B2 =
=D1=87=D1=91=D0=BC
> =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0 -- =D0=B0 =D0=B8=D0=BC=
=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=
=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B5=
=D0=B4=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=8F =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=
=D0=BE
> =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5 /e/n/i/lo =
=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=
=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F.
> =D0=A7=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=
=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8F=D0=B5=D0=BC ?

=D0=9D=D1=83, =D0=B2 =D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=
 =D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81 =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=
=B5 =D0=B2 =D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B1=D1=83=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=
=B2=D0=B0=D1=85 =D1=82=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=
=82=D1=81=D1=8F
resolv.conf =D1=81 127.0.0.1 =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5 =
=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B8 bi=
nd =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=
=B3=D0=BE
=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0. =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B8 =
=D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0 systemd =D1=
=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=
=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=
=8C, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5
=D0=B7=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE. =D0=A2=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B6=D0=B5 =
=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =D1=82=D0=BE=D1=82 =D0=B6=
=D0=B5 pilot@ =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D0=B1=D0=
=B0=D0=B3=D0=B7=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BB=D0=B5 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=
=B8=D0=BB =D0=BE
=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BC, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=84=D0=
=B8=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=B8 lo =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=
=D1=82 =D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=
=D0=BE 127.0.0.1 =D0=B8 =D0=B2 etcnet =D0=BD=D0=B5
=D0=B7=D1=80=D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=B0 l=
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WBR, Mikhail Efremov