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From: "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] dependency needs Epoch warnings
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:31:48 +0400
Message-ID: <20130124113142.GD5550@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51010C02.8050709@solin.spb.ru>

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:25:06PM +0400, Aleksey Avdeev wrote:
> 24.01.2013 10:53, Dmitry V. Levin пишет:
> > По моим данным, в Сизифе 44 пакета, которые собираются с этим
> > предупреждением, например:
> > $ grep '^warning: [^:]*: dependency on [^ ]* needs Epoch' xorg-server-2:1.13.1.901-alt1 
> > warning: xorg-server: dependency on xorg-server-common needs Epoch
> > warning: xorg-drv-multimedia: dependency on xorg-server needs Epoch
> > warning: xorg-xephyr: dependency on xorg-server needs Epoch
> > warning: xorg-xdmx: dependency on xorg-server needs Epoch
> > warning: xorg-xvfb: dependency on xorg-server-common needs Epoch
> > warning: xorg-xnest: dependency on xorg-server-common needs Epoch
> > 
> > То, что этот warning пора поднять до error, кажется очевидным.
> > Вопрос, есть ли смысл делать ручку, которая бы понижала этот error
> > обратно до уровня warning?
> 
>   Нужно как миниум для apache2.

Словам не верю, докажите.

> В противном случаи будет сломана
> возможность делать точечные обновления компонентов apache2 и возможность
> установки новых модулей (или их версий) на старый apache2 (если нет
> противопоказаний по библиотекам, разумеется).

Такая возможность не просто не нужна, она вредна и с ней надо бороться.
При сборке apache2 тестируется в лучшем случае модули и сервер, собранные
из одного исходного пакета, и не надо делать вид, что модули и сервер,
собранные из разных исходного пакета, могут случайно заработать.

> PS: Сейчас я на эту мину (смена warning`а на error) нарвался при
> очередной сборке apache2 на people: Вчера оно собиралось, а сегодня --
> уже нет.

Речь идет про
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-httpd-event
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-httpd-itk
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-httpd-peruser
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-httpd-prefork
warning: apache2-base: non-strict dependency on apache2-httpd-worker
warning: apache2-cgi-bin-printenv: non-strict dependency on apache2-datadirs
warning: apache2-cgi-bin-test-cgi: non-strict dependency on apache2-datadirs
warning: apache2-compat: non-strict dependency on apache2-base
warning: apache2-compat: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-configs-A1PROXIED: non-strict dependency on apache2-base
warning: apache2-configs-A1PROXIED: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-htcacheclean: non-strict dependency on apache2-mod_disk_cache
warning: apache2-httpd-event: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-httpd-itk: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-httpd-peruser: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-httpd-prefork: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-httpd-worker: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-manual: non-strict dependency on apache2-base
warning: apache2-manual: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-mod_disk_cache: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-mod_ldap: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-mod_ssl-compat: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-mod_ssl: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2-suexec: non-strict dependency on apache2-common
warning: apache2: non-strict dependency on apache2-cgi-bin
warning: apache2: non-strict dependency on apache2-html
warning: apache2: non-strict dependency on apache2-icons

Это очень хорошо, что теперь вместо warning пишут error - лишний повод
задуматься о странностях упаковки apache2.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-24 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-03 16:40 [devel] samba Led
2013-01-03 22:36 ` Alexey Shabalin
2013-01-03 22:45   ` Led
2013-01-04  9:55     ` Alexey Shabalin
2013-01-23 20:14       ` [devel] non-strict dependency warnings Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-23 21:05         ` Igor Vlasenko
2013-01-24  6:44           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 10:47             ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 11:25               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 17:58                 ` [devel] non-strict dependency in apache2 (was: non-strict dependency warnings) Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 19:15                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 23:19                     ` [devel] non-strict dependency in apache2 Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 23:37                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-25  0:48                         ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-25  8:53                           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-25 10:11                             ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-26  9:22               ` [devel] %_allowed_nonstrict_interdeps (was: non-strict dependency warnings) Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24  6:53           ` [devel] dependency needs Epoch warnings Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24  7:09             ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2013-01-24  7:16               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24  7:24                 ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2013-01-24 10:25             ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 11:31               ` Dmitry V. Levin [this message]
2013-01-24 12:21                 ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 16:52                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 21:44                     ` [devel] Зависимости между apache2-httpd-* и apache2-{mod_*,common} (was: dependency needs Epoch warnings) Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 21:47                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 22:26                         ` [devel] Зависимости между apache2-httpd-* и apache2-{mod_*,common} Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 21:53                       ` [devel] Зависимости между apache2-httpd-* и apache2-{mod_*,common} (was: dependency needs Epoch warnings) Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 22:31                         ` [devel] Зависимости между apache2-httpd-* и apache2-{mod_*,common} Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 12:15             ` [devel] dependency needs Epoch warnings Igor Vlasenko
2013-01-24  6:46             ` [devel] non-strict dependency warnings Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 11:21                 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 16:00                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 16:22                       ` Led
2013-01-24 22:16                         ` [devel] %EVR macro Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 22:37                           ` Led
2013-01-24 23:21                             ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 12:07             ` [devel] non-strict dependency warnings Igor Vlasenko
2013-01-23 22:29         ` Led
2013-01-23 22:37           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-23 22:43             ` Led
2013-01-24 11:57         ` [devel] Рано поднимать до error (was: non-strict dependency warnings) Sergey V Turchin
2013-01-24 12:23           ` [devel] Рано поднимать до error Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-24 12:31           ` [devel] non-strict dependency warnings Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 12:55             ` Sergey V Turchin
2013-01-24 14:49               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-24 14:59                 ` Sergey V Turchin
2013-01-26  8:49           ` [devel] Рано поднимать до error REAL
2013-01-26 10:39             ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-26 17:36               ` Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-26 19:07                 ` Sergey Vlasov
2013-01-26 20:08                   ` [devel] non-strict deps Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-26 20:39                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-26 23:31                     ` Igor Zubkov
2013-01-26 23:56                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-27  0:25                         ` Led
2013-01-27  0:37                           ` [devel] gear-rules Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-27  0:56                             ` Led
2013-01-27  1:01                               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-27  1:09                                 ` Led
2013-01-30  0:50                         ` [devel] non-strict deps Igor Zubkov
2013-01-30  0:55                           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-26 20:38                   ` [devel] Рано поднимать до error Aleksey Avdeev
2013-01-27  7:00                     ` Sergey Vlasov
2013-01-04  1:58 ` [devel] samba REAL
2013-01-04 11:06   ` [devel] llvm Dmitry V. Levin
2013-01-04 15:32     ` REAL
2013-01-04 15:24       ` Valery V. Inozemtsev
2013-01-05  5:13         ` REAL
2013-01-05  9:43           ` Dmitry V. Levin

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